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Old 10-19-2007
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Re: Bush vows to veto children's health care bill ... because it's too costly?

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Originally Posted by ThorHammer View Post
You must be fucking retarded. Meals, shelther, health care, etc.... are all part of your wages and benefits while in the US military, as laid out in the employment contract. A service member gets them for WORKING. They are not handed out. The US Government offers these benefits for two reasons.
Why aren't civilians worthy of this kind of contract? Every person that pays taxes is working for the government and is working to manifest the money that is necessary to finance the military.

The variable that you fail to take into account is that all of the money for the government originally comes from the taxpayer. The military does not generate their own income. They are totally reliant on the taxpayer for their very existence. The military demands that the taxpayer finance:

-infrastructure
-tools
-training
-food
-health care

Why should they be entitled to all of that, yet the very people whose money they are taking aren't? That's a pretty obvious double-standard.


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Originally Posted by ThorHammer View Post
1. Basic military pay, alone, is not enough to live off. Therefore, they make up for it by offering better benefits. They help reduce your living costs.
2. They are employment incentives. They make the option of military service more competitive in the job market.
So what? I've already addressed this. There are plenty of honourable civilian jobs that are dangerous and underpaid. Without these civilians being killed and injured on the job, the military wouldn't exist because they are totally dependent on the taxpayer dollar.

Why is the military afforded these special benefits that other low-paying, dangerous civilian jobs aren't? According to Steve and a few other posters on this thread, those people are responsible for their own choices and if they can't afford health care for their family then they should make better choices and change jobs. Yet people like Steve consciously chose to go to the military where they accepted all of the benefits that they believe others aren't entitled to.

That is hypocrisy.
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