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Originally Posted by Bunz
The site Iraqi body count says between 75-82thousand civilians dead from violence. Another roughly 4 thousand Iraqi security forces and a smilar number of coalition casualties. Unless you can provide a better link, I will certainly look at it. I will say now that I wont accept the overall number of Iraqis who have died since the invasion. That is a common number used to mark otherwise natural deaths, and raise it to irrelevant numbers. The OP by his information provided for only violent casualties. The numbers of 650,000 simply arent realistic and is accounted for by flawed measures.
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Why, because your gut tells you so? You are not likely to find more respectable sources than the Lancet.
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Originally Posted by Bunz
Iraq Body Count
Among many other sources count the actual violent deaths in Iraq to be between someone of 82k-150k. That is still a tenth of what you suggest could end up being the final toll.
I am as against this war and am consistently looking for solution to it, but the reality if the high end numbers are based on not was a violent death. But deaths as a result of ongoing violence such as lack of proper medical facilities etc. If one were to take a reaslitic objective view of casualities that have resulted from humans actually killing other humans, the number settles in at somewhere in the 100-150k number. Again still in the area of 10% of what would justify being in the top 10 of conflicts in terms of casualties since 1950
Again, I dont justify in any way the ongoing casualty count. But to assume it will increase by a tenfold number is implausible at this rate.
According to these numbers,
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We could just throw numbers around for a few dozen posts but I'll abstain. Not to worry, we'll know soon enough.