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If all these people were being saved by their guns then the crime and victimization rates should be much higher in those places where people don't have easy access to guns to protect themselves, but that's not what we see is it?
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You're right - because Washington, DC is a utopia.
You're kidding right?
Goober, crime rates ARE higher in places where guns are restricted. This can, and has, been demonstrated.
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If Americans prevented 108,000 murders by having guns available, then the streets of Canada should be rivers of blood, but they're not are they?
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This question makes no logical sense whatsoever. Besides the fact that the 108K number presented by the NCVS does not claim they are all prevented murders, it has nothing to do with Canada.
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My theory is that people who carry guns are more likely to be paranoid, and have a distorted view of the world.
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Your theory is based upon nothing but ignorance. Facts present an entirely different face. Those who may carry them ILLEGALLY are one thing, but those who carry them legally are provably the most law abiding, and arguably some of the most stable, in society. If anyone has a distorted view my friend, it would be you in this instance.
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They are more likely to believe that they are somehow safer by carrying around a weapon, and they are more likely to report that their weapon has saved them.
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Well since they carry them, then yes, they are more likely to report that they've used it accordingly. Funny how that might work, don't you think? Ascribing paranoia to them because of your own ignorance is not valid.
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Your link reports that one woman reported she had used her firearm to protect her from life threatening situations 52 times in the past year.
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Not knowing where she lives, I cannot judge her response or reasoning - and frankly neither can you.
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To me that's a sick person running around with a deadly weapon, while I don't doubt that there are situations where firearms save lives, on the whole I think that they are very rare, and vastly over reported.
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You're welcome to hold that belief in the face of all the facts to the contrary, but to make the claim that you believe they are very rare and vastly over-reported regardless of all the evidence makes me question your sanity. Do you really believe you are the first one to have that opinion?
What, in your demonstrably uninformed opinion makes a person "sick" because they choose to carry a firearm? Why is it that you seem to be the only person with the mental clarity to arrive at this conclusion when all the people who legally carry a gun every day have had their backgrounds checked out on a local, state and national level and are found to be normal? Do you really think you somehow can perceive something which was missed by the literally thousands of people involved in reviewing CCW applications?
Ultimately it comes down to this goober: I dont give a damn WHAT you want to believe. You have the right to be as stupid as you want. We have presented the facts to you, and you can do with them as you will. Do not expect others to change their beliefs or actions based upon your fears and stupidity.