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Originally Posted by crisis
As usual you miss the point. You would. You would escalate the situation without any concern as to how far it would go fully prepared to use your gun.
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No concern??
You obviously know nothing...
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No, its not surprising considering you said -
“Because, frankly, I'd hammer the guy in the chops as hard as I could...”
Then -
“Now, here's the thing: if I do, and if it the confrontation escalates to the point where I "need" to draw my gun, I'd damn well better have it with me.”
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First, not reacting to his act isn't an option. It's cowardice.
Second, if he pulls a knife, I'll be up Shit Creek if I don't have my gun. If he doesn't pull a knife, my gun stays where it is.
You seem to assume that I'll pull my gun at the first hint of trouble. I wouldn't...
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Oh, and I am not scared of guns (not that I consider that to be necessarily a bad or good thing). It’s just that my level of exposure doesn’t meet your requirements for a brave and masculine gun owner.
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Your posts here indicate a rather paralyzing fear of guns. That you're not brave and masculine, though, has nothing to do with that fear. It's likely just how you are...
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Nevertheless it will be you who decides how the situation plays out by your reaction.
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Right.
Of course you don't place any blame on the assailant. Another cowardly trait.
Here's something to consider: If my daughter and I are approached, unprovoked, and my daughter is spit upon, hasn't the assailant already escalated the situation?
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If someone has initiated such an act unprovoked, it would be a reasonable assumption that when provoked they may at least match it if not escalate it.
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I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that the spitter is at fault, or that he would be the recipient of an unprovoked attack if I decided to escalate the situation?
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If one of the parties possesses a mental capacity higher than the other it is he who is able to decide where the confrontation goes.
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Really?
So if my daughter and I are just walking along, and someone spits on my daughter, has not the "spitter" already decided that the confrontation is escalating?
Yes, he has.
And that's what you consider a "higher mental capacity"??
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Why would I deserve such consequences?
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Because you're afraid to defend your family...
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Defend them? From saliva? You seem incapable of discriminating between different levels of threats and perils yet expect us to believe you are responsible enough to make decisions about how to react to given situations.
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I'm sure your children enjoy knowing that people can unload gallons of spit on them, and you'll do nothing.
As for how I react, I'm a pretty good negotiator. I can, and have, talked my way out of some pretty undavory situations, while in possession of a gun...
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While one may feel the desire to beat another’s head in for spitting on ones child it is on balance an unnecessary reaction that could cause unnecessary further and worse harm.
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Odds are that, if the guy gets a beat-down once, he'll think twice gefore doing it to someone else...
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There is no doubt it would be hard to walk away from that situation but I hope that is what I could do. My ego and pride need no such stroking.
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I'm sure walking away, every time, would be your first avenue to deal with the situation...
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And I said nothing about running away every time. But your need to marginalise me as a cowardly weakling to support your bellicose rhetoric requires it I suppose.
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You wouldn't? What course of action would you take if you didn't walk away?
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The opposite of which is to engender them with the attitude to grow up as irrational over aggressive meat heads.
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What you see as "aggressive" is seen by sane, intelligent adults as "confidence"...
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Well as one is nearly 15 and the other 10 and they don’t yet I guess time is running out for your theory to be proven.
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Of course, they wouldn't tell you. They're probably telling their friends, though...
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In a few years they will be able to make their own decisions about how to react in such situations.
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And they'll likely relish the fact that they can defend themselves, instead of running away, when someone spits on them...
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I have raised them with the same philosophy you find so repugnant yet they have never said anything to make me think they think of me as a coward (such a typically subjective word).
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Like I said, they wouldn't tell you if they thought you were a coward...
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And in reality there are far worse things they could think of me than that. As I said I don’t judge my self on how violently I can react and neither do they.
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Nor do I judge myself that way. But I also know I'm not a coward...
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Nor is my ego so important to me.
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Ego has nothing to do with it...
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And I often think of myself as being insecure.
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And I have no doubt that there is good reason for that...
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I can ignore that easy enough.
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You often ignore logic...
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I will leave your kids out of this.
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You mean my non-cowardly kid who knows how to defend herself when necessary?
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You complete reliance on supposition and unerring belief in your own greatness has you arguing in moronic generalities and clichés.
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And yet you assume that, if someone spits on my kid, I'll react by blowing his head off...
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My children stick up for themselves in a way that makes me proud and confident as far as anyone can be (well anyone with only one helping of confidence anyway).
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I can only believe that "sticking up for themselves" consists of yelling at their assailaint...
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They also posses a level of reason when called upon that puts my mind at ease.
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I'm sure you're happy that they've adopted your tactic for handling tough situations: cowardly run away...
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I don’t have to fear that they will get themselves into a situation that is out of control because they thought about everything with their gonads or how bravely others will view them.
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This is just stupid.
I don't go out looking for trouble. On those rare occasions it's hapened, though, I needed to deal with it.
If someone spits on your kid, sure, they can run away; that's what you've taught them to do. If they're surrounded by people who intend them harm, running away will likely not be an option.
You've prepared them to not even look at how else they might defend themselves...