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So you suspect that your reaction might be physical; and one might say even a violent, one. Tackling someone could easily be considered a violent act, especially if the person falls wrong and breaks a bone or bites some pavement...
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But not quite as violent as -
"hammering the guy in the chops as hard as you could...”
It’s kinda what I am talking about when you accuse me of dodging an answer. Rational people generally make a decision
after assessing a situation as opposed to going in all hot cocked and prepared to beat everyone’s head indiscriminately.
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Who's suggesting an "ultraviolent" reaction?
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You.
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I'm certainly not.
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Then your perception of
ultra violence is somewhat askew from the rest of us. Concerning that you walk around armed then.
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An "ultraviolent reaction" would be if the guy looked at my daughter in a way I didn't care for, and then I blew his head off. I haven't come close to suggesting anything like that...
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No, that is an overreaction followed by murder. Technically it is
ultraviolent however it makes hammering someone in the chops less
ultraviolent only by comparison. Stabbing him would be less violent however I would still consider it
ultraviolent. Anyway you are splitting hairs by playing with adjectives and merely trying to back pedal and save face. If you make bombastic statements intended to display your masculinity you will be called to account and defend your words.
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THis is often the position of the liberal pacifist.
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Cool you got new insults for me now!
Liberal meaning politically aligned or what? You got to understand that not being a conservative American I don’t consider that an insult. Just a bigoted ad hominem. And pacifist! You say that as if it is a bad thing!
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You seem to think that, if someone reacts, they'll go from 0 to 100 in nothing flat
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Nah just you. You said so.
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I'm unconcerned with how anyone perceives my masculinity. I have nothing to prove.
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Then why is it so important that your family thinks their daddy is soooo brave? And why does it concern you to the point of insults that I am such a coward.
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And you would allow someone to spit on your family.
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You are mixed up. Firstly I have not
allowed them to spit on anyone. They have done it according to the scenario painted. All I am doing is assessing what is best for my family after the event as opposed to ensuring they see how much of a tough guy I am at the time. I can not remove the spit by beating the guy so what will I achieve. I am not sure I will “teach him a lesson” as that behaviour will generally come someone who has missed a few lessons in life. All I will be doing is making a show of my self and perhaps letting off some steam. So all of it really would be about me and all I would be doing would be using my families defence as an excuse for my inability to manage my emotions and suppress my desire to be seen as a hero.
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It might "seem" that way in the eyes of someone who has an unnatural and paralyzing fear of firearms...
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I am not scared of guns. Why do you persist in attempts of marginalisation when you have no argument.
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I don't think Hitler ever actually uttered the words "I hate Jews". But it's pretty fuckin' clear that he did...
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Well if I get in a position to send gun nuts off the concentration camps I will accept the accusation.
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You equate any action as irrational.
That, in itself, is irrational...
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An action can be to remove your family from the situation. An action need not have to be violent. This concept you struggle with.
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If someone has initiated such an act like spitting on a child unprovoked, it would be a reasonable assumption that when provoked they may at least match it if not escalate it.
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Exactly. So what benefit is it to your family or your daughter that you escalate it by your reaction other than to show how brave daddy is?
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You seem to be obsessing. Is this yet another area where you feel the need to quesiton others?
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Yours is the obsession with masculinity and cowardice. I didn’t bring that crap into the argument. I was trying to debate what level of logical consideration should be used. Next you will be blaming me for defending my liberalism.
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You've already shown us how you believe that any reaction, which doesn’t include running away like a scared child, is irrational...
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Where, how?
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Sadly, I've not the kind of free time that you do, so the rest will just be filed under "A" for "Assinine...
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I know what its like. But it is no surprise you can’t argue any of it rationally. You have already used up all your insults which leaves you with nowhere to go.
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Well, people like Wallaroo are of the opinion that people like me would go guna-a-blazin' in such a situation.
I was merely pointing out the fantasy of such a belief...
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No actually your modus operandi is to beat him
non violently first. Only if he takes offence to this and joins the lunacy may you be presented with the necessity
(whatever that is in your world) of drawin yer shootin iron.