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Originally Posted by Brett Golden
Now you'll say you admire some of Martin Luther's words, but not all. Right ??
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True.
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Originally Posted by Brett Golden
Do you also apologize for some of God's words too ?? Such asfor example, St John 8:44 wherein God, thru his son, told the jews: "Ye are of your father, the devil."
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Context my boy, context. John was written later then the other Gospels when Christians are being actively persecuted by Jewish leaders so of course that is going to reflect sometimes in his gospel.
Also, it's all good to quote single passages out of the Bible without the rest of passage but, one could make the Bible say "There is no God" using that method. The entire passage is talking about how they are accusing Jesus of being from the devil. Jesus is illustrating how wrong that idea really is and how it is the devil who has them convinced of that opinion.
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How about after Pontius Pilot told the jews "I can find no fault with this man". And the jews cried: "Crucify him, crucify him, and let his blood be upon us and our children."
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True, but remember it is still Pilot who made the decision to execute him. He gave in to "peer pressure", if you will, which doesn't change a the fact that he is the one who ultimately made the decision. He cannot say "they made me do it." Doesn't mean the Jewish leaders didn't help out in the process but to blame them solely is missing the facts.
by the way i have always felt sorry for Pilot
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And, 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 says: "...for you suffered like things of your own countrymen as they did from THE JEWS, WHO KILLED BOTH THE LORD JESUS and the prophets, and drove us out and displease God, and oppose all men."
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Again, context and please finish the passage. The first part of verse 14 is "for you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea...." the verse makes a lot more sense when that part of the sentence is there. Christians did suffer in Judea at the hands of the Jewish leaders and the Jewish leader did have a hand in getting Christ crucified, but no where does the Bible say that means Jews should be persecuted (Paul even says in Romans they might go heaven). The Bible says the opposite: "turn the other cheek" etc... Those passages may sound like open invitations to persecute Jews, but only if you read just those passages and not the rest of the Bible.
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Do you apologize for all that, too ??? And do you apologize for me quoting God, for you??
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ah the real issue. Who said you were quoting God? You are quoting a guy who says he is John and Paul, neither of which happen to be God. The Bible was not written by God and then dropped down in front of Paul complete with maps. It was inspired by God, but written by humans, which means some weird stuff gets in their from time to time (good example: Genesis 32:22-32 where Jacob restless with God and wins).
Also remember that it was part of God's plan for Jesus to die. His death also leads to his resurrection and thus the hope for salvation for all.
But to answer you question, no I don't apologize for scripture, there is no need too.