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Old 11-25-2007
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Re: What is wrong with Ron Paul?

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Originally Posted by Slon View Post
Fine, the SUPPOSEDLY PARAPHRASED LINE to which you linked. Look, I understand that the only thing you have the capacity to argue is semantics, but I don't particularly care about those at the moment, so stop stalling and understand that the current death penalty system is broken.
First, I've no issue with semantics. You said I asked a question. I didn't. The you said I posted a bill. I didn't.

Stop stalling and understand that you're mentally flailing about because your idiotic positions are being systematically dismantled with incredible ease.

Second, I've already said that changes need to be made to our system of capital punishment. "Broken"? I think that could be debated, but changes definitely need to be made.

Of course, that something Ron Paul hasn't said...

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Certainly sounds like he opposes the broken death penalty, given his description of the problems with it. It's not like he said he opposes it because he doesn't think anyone should ever be killed.
He's never said he opposes a "broken system". He also didn't say that he opposes the death penalty for cases of shoplifting, or that he supports it in
in cases of speeding. Since he hasn't spoken out about those specific positions, should we assume he's taking them?

Of course not, because that would be fucking retarded, much like it's fucking retarded to assume, as you have, that he opposes a "broken system" (which he has not said), instead of assuming he opposes the federal death penalty (which he has said)...

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Like I said, nowhere did he say he opposes the death penalty out of principle (that killing someone for a crime is wrong).
He's said he's against the death penalty. That's a pretty clear statement, and one which intelligent people have no problem comprehending...

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If he opposed the death penalty out of principle, he would have said so.
Then one should be able to assume that it if he thought it should be kept, but "fixed", he would've said that, too.

But he didn't.

He's anti-death penalty. That cannot be disputed...

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Face it, Steve. You are posting bullshit that you are pulling out of your ass and when asked to substantiate it, you make meaningless, silly little comebacks like the one above.
I'm posting bullshit?

You say I asked a question. Then you said I posted a bill. You call it "semantics", and I call it "Slon's Ignorance On Parade".

I provided clear evidence that Ron Paul is firmly against the death penalty. Instead of accepting that, you try to spin it around and read something into it that he never said.

"Bullshit", indeed...
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