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Old 11-26-2007
danielpalos danielpalos is offline
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Re: minimum conditions for workers in the US?

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Originally Posted by Marcus1124 View Post
EXACTLY, as Madison pointed out, the SAME language was included in the Articles and that language was NOT an enumeration of general powers under the Articles, just as it was not under the proposed Constitution, what he said was that the "detractors" of the proposed Constitution (the Anti-Federalists) were "stooping" to "misconstruction" of the proposed text. Madison says that the Anti-federlasts claim that the "general welfare" clause of the proposed Constitution amounted to an general grant of power to legislate and spend on anything considered "general welfare" was "absurd" and based on his accusing them of "stooping" to such a "misconstruction" in his opinion intentionally disingenuous.

And the very point you make, that the SAME language already existed in the Articles of Confederation and nobody would argue that the national government under the Articles had any such broad general power to spend and legislate, was the point Madison made in dismissing the misconstruction of those same words in the Constitution by the Federalists.
You are misquoting Madison. He includes the general power to provide for the common Defense and general Welfare. Where is the specific power to provide for the common Offense, without a specific power of declaration of war?

How did you reach the conclusion that Article Third of the Articles of Confederation is not an enumeration of powers, general or not?
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