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Re: Do Blacks Always Feel That Their Color Is The Main Cause Of Their Troubles

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Originally Posted by mawg View Post
this is why , in my opinion

politically correct = mentally retarded
Cute.

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I have seen , in the nations people who were very racist against whites and blacks to a lesser degree and for no reason whatsoever

if a person holds what happened hundreds of years ago (or even decades if it never happened to them personally ) against the descendants of those who oppressed way back then , then that person is not only stupid but racist and usually lazy or ignorant or combinations of those things.
Really? I'd be pissed. Real pissed. We often don't acknowledge the enormous effect of slavery on black people. You go on to talk of your Native American heritage, and don't get me wrong, I color Cortez and Jackson as devils just as you must do, but I assume you at least know your tribe. I assume you have some idea of the history of your family. Imagine if your last name was the name of the person who abused your family for decades. Every time you sign your name, you would be carrying on that man's legacy.

We don't realize it, but African-American culture begins from slavery. Blacks were assimilated into the culture, taught that they were an inferior race, having that ingrained into their heads. And to assume that these conditions have simply worn off over the years is ignorant.

Have you ever eaten "chitlins"? I assume you haven't, but if you have, you most likely had it made for you or it was given to you by a black person. The reason? During slavery, blacks were fed "chitlins," more accurately "shit-loins," the intestines of a pig. Why? Because it was the most despisable part of the pig, and no slave owner really wanted it. And despite all the "hundreds of years" of what you seem to assume is racial equality, black people still eat chitlins. Why? Because culture is passed down from generation to generation.


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Blacks , imho tend to be the most coddled and least deserving of any further special treatment...
Out of who? All the races in the world? Because you know that's not true.
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...yet whine and bitch and claim that everything is racially motivated and that they were en masse violated and abused by primarily the whites.
They weren't violated and abused?

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most of them have never received anything but the benefits of their being on this continent and in this country.
Like, you're just saying things that are untrue just because they're inflammatory. Nice debate style.
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let us take a look at the areas where their ancestors came from...poverty , ignorance , primitive existence ,disease,famine a complete lack of progress much beyond where the local peoples were when their ancestors were brought here ... looks like they missed out on so very much by being here doesn't it? If they have such a huge problem with it , why then do they not go back to their motherland? no one is holding them here.
More ignorance. So Africa's current troubles are just because black people are prone to killing each other? Or could it be the aftereffects of hundreds of years of violent colonialism by European countries. Ever hear of the "Scramble for Africa?" Probably not. It refers to the rush of European countries to stake their claim in the continent once they realized it had resources. It's deplorable what was done. Want to claim that this was hundreds of years ago? Here's a map of Africa 93 years ago:


Notice that only the country of Ethiopia is under non-European control. Learn some history before you assume things.
Oops, forgot Liberia, the country which was created for ex-slaves to go to back in Africa based on Thomas Jefferson's assertion that what was done to the blacks during slavery was so horrible that free blacks could never forgive white people.


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yet they suck at the teat of the nation and still bitch about what happened "how they was slaves" when none of those alive today ever were.( if there is one record holding long lived ex slave out there then that person does have a right to make the claim , but none of the modern generation does )
But it's not like many of them haven't experienced blatant discrimination. Hell, the Civil Rights movement was in the '60s! There are millions of people who were alive to see segregation, lynchings, and outright racism directed toward them by their own government.

*Pause to admire this kid Adrian Peterson. Why does Chester Taylor even play?!

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I have known many racist blacks , hell you can see it in their use of racial slurs for white people , yet if a white guy says the "N" word ( what a bunch of silly shit that is) then it is hate speech and even though blacks often hurl it around amongst themselves , they are suddenly deeply wounded and afflicted by it.
This is my opinion, but I think that the use of the word "nigga" stems from the hundreds of years of socialization enforced by whites, to the point where black people degrade themselves.

One of the insults used to degrade African-Americans was their hair. The nappy, curly hair of blacks was seen as gross and inferior. White people don't really remember that, but ask a black person if they have "good hair" or "bad hair." I guarantee you that they'll claim that they have bad hair unless it has been straightened, softened, made to look as close to stereotypical white hair as possible. Interesting? It's amazing what has been passed down since slavery.

During slavery, blacks were not allowed to be educated. Some slaves were beaten just for trying to learn to read. Keeping slaves ignorant was in fact a tool of slavemasters, because it is always easier to exploit someone who doesn't know that they're being exploited. And to this day, blacks still lag far behind in education. Many people like yourselves seem to claim that it is because blacks are either genetically inferior or they just don't want an education. But is it possible that the culture of education being forbidden has been passed down just as many other aspects of slave culture? Is it possible that when combined with this culture, the gross inadequacy of many schools in which minorities dominate is the cause of this education gap?

Low socioeconomic status has been proven to be the root cause of many of the things you claim are black traits, such as crime and high birthrates. But how can you get a good job if you can't get a good education? Black people in America are stuck in a cycle of low education leading to poverty leading to crime leading to high birthrates leading to low education, etc. And to claim that white people are innocent in creating the situation is to stick your fingers in your ears and close your eyes.

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My own ancestors were badly treated in the beginning years of this country .
MUCH worse than the blacks were, the oppressors didnt bother to keep them around as slaves and feed them and provide for them, they were hunted down women and children raped and slaughtered , young men castrated and abused before being killed and scalped so their hair could be bloody trophies of how they had beaten the "savages" ... yes it does make my blood boil a bit ...

But , I do not blame todays whites for those things , nor do I claim to have suffered the persecution my ancestors did .
we celebrate thanksgiving as a time when the pilgrims rejoiced and thanked God and honored our ancestors for helping them survive ( prior to the later troubles )
when a white person calls me injun or tonto or chief -- I do not clutch my chest and shake uncontrollably and scream "you racist bastard!!" I usually talk to them and in the course of doing so I usually come away with the confirmation that they hold no hate for me and I give them an insight into who I am ,we often part friends.
I'm glad that you've come to terms with racism and I'm glad that you can approach racist people in such a manner. Many African-Americans are of the same mindset as yourself. However, it is absurd to expect everyone to have the same tolerance for the gross indiscretions leveled against their people for centuries, Native Americans included.

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those who mean ill will and hate will not change and are a minority in all races , they are to be pitied and ignored , unless they become violent.

I was deeply involved with a young lady who happened to be black for a good number of years , I was finally able to get her to see that in most cases what is over sensitively perceived as racism is not there in fact in most cases.
So did she stop being black after those years? I know, I get your point, and at this point I'm tired of typing and I made a cheap attack on your error. Sorry.

Anyway, I read that sentence with sadness, for if you have truly succeeded in convincing a black person to share your own view of African-Americans, then you have done nothing but perpetuate the cycle noted above.

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People should ALL act like human beings first and foremost , love or hate each other for what they do not the color they are( and I am speaking to the Blacks , and all the other nonwhites , just as much as I am to the whites)
Absolutely. It sounds like we just have vastly different approaches in how to acheive this.
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