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Old 12-03-2007
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Re: Do You Carry A Gun?

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Originally Posted by AdrienXII View Post
Why not? I don't see why I would need any prior knowledge in order to discuss anything, provided I'm not totally stupid, which I don't think I am.
How does a person expect to speak about a topic in an intelligent manner when he knows nothing about the topic?

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First, no two situations are alike, so what applies to one may very well not work in another.
I don't believe I've ever said anything to the contrary...

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But saying that having drawn your weapon, you are then compelled to use it makes no sense to me.
I agree.

Then again, that's not what I've said.

Drawing a weapon does not compel you to pull the trigger. But, if you do decide to pull the trigger, it had damn well better be while the firearm is aimed at a target, and not off to the side or up in the air.

When I drew my weapon, our assailants didn't stop making their way towards us. At that point is when I decided to use the weapon...

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You may, or you may not have to, depending on how your assailants react to the presence of the weapon. Unless they have firearms themselves, which, as I understand, is not the situation we were discussing, you will have time to react.
How close should I have let them get? As it was, they were within 10 or 15 feet. What would be an acceptable distance? Should I have let them get close enough to cut me, or to hit me with the pipe that one of them had?

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Now, warning shots may be potentially dangerous to bystanders, I agree. All the same, it is possible to shoot at something that will stop or slow the bullet, such as a the ground, a tree, a car, or whatever.
And all that does is make a loud noise. If anything, it suggests to your assailants that you're not prepared to fire your weapon in a manner which will stop them...

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As for legs being small targets, please. I've only fired a pistol once in my life and I feel confident I could hit a beer bottle out to 20 meters without any trouble.
My God, this is getting sillier by minute.

If I were on a range, I could shoot the dots off a dice at 100 feet. That's not the position I was in, though. I wasn't on a range, I was on a street, with four people approaching me who meant to do me harm.

If I put a bottle on a sidewalk, and then sent four people towards you with weapons, and I gave you only a second or two to go from not having a weapon in your hand to hitting the bottle with a bullet, and you knew that the four assailaints would beat and rob you if they got to you, I have little doubt that you'd miss that bottle...

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You are trained, it shouldn't present you with any difficulties.
Training can't stop the physiological effects that you experience in a "real world" environment. It can do nothing to stop the adrenalin rush (which makes you shake, by the way) or the tunnel vision. It can do nothing to stop the hyperventilating

I always laugh when someone says that, because they might have centered a target once on a range, they think they could adequately defend themself with a firearm. The environments could not be more different, and the physical reactions one experiences in those two environments could not be more different.

So, again, I'd suggest that if you wish to continue this discussion, you educate yourself on the topic. Without that, you'll continue to argue from a position of ignorance...
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