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Originally Posted by crisis
You have no idea of what circumstance are prevailing. By that statement you assume every confrontation is a lethal one.
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No, I make the assumption that every confrontation could end up as a lethal one.
Big difference...
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Because assailants with knives do not always have guns.
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Ten seconds before he pulled a knife, I didn't think he had that, either...
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And you have a nifty habit of thinking everything will manifest itself in the most violent of outcomes.
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It's called being prepared.
As I've said, I'll probably live the rest of my life without ever again having to draw my weapon. If it were to happen, though, I'd like to know that I'm prepared to meet whatever threat I'm presented with...
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There are infinite circumstances and possible outcomes depending on what the threat is and how the threat is dealt with.
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And this is kind of the point I'm making.
My argument in favor of carrying a gun is based on my experience. The guy who lives down the street may have his own experience which justifies it for him. The guy in the next town might have had an experience which justifies it.
The argument for carrying isn't made by just me, it's made by all of those who've had experiences which support their carrying a gun.
Just as you say that there's no one argument which justifies it, neither is there one argument which counters them all...
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Sometimes innocent people will get hurt or killed but they may still end up that way whether they are armed or not.
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So because they might be killed anyway, they shouldn't be in a position to defend themselves?
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The good guy with the gun doesn’t always win. It guarantees nothing.
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I believe it increases the odds exponentially...
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So you have millions of armed people running around making ad hoc decisions based on their own perceptions of what is a threat and how lethally they need to deal with it.
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Well, I don't know that millions of people are carrying guns in this country but, if they were, you would be right.
And I don't have a problem with someone carrying a gun making the decision when there's a threat...
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And I don’t want to rely on others deciding what level of threat I present to them.
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That's exactly my point.
You want to see less guns. You are, then, wanting to decide what level of threat I present to someone who'd attack me.
If you don't want someone dictating the level of threat you present, why the fuck should I be willing to accept the fact that you want to limit the level of threat I present?
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No argument there but that is irrelevant to the discussion.
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Then what was the point of the comment?
See, it's not irrelevant at all. In fact, it's exactly the point...