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Old 12-04-2007
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Re: Russia - „The Third Empire“

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Originally Posted by nhvoter View Post
All I see in that listed is 'USAID' 'Henry Kissinger' and other names I don't recognize amongst a language I don't speak.
No problem. Another people do. Well, if you only read in English, then I offer you the simpler way. Welcome here All-Russian conference “The other Russia”
scroll down and watch the "List of Foreign guests". I give here the citing of "guests" from US organisations, which back the "Other Russia":
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List of Foreign guests :



- Conatser Frank, The National Endowment for Democracy, USA

- Diuk Nadia, The National Endowment for Democracy, USA

- Eizenstat Stuart E., Ambassador to the European Union, Under Secretary of State for Commerce and Secretary of the Treasury in the Clinton administration, Chief White House Domestic Policy Advisor in the Carter administration, USA

- Fried Daniel, U.S Department of State, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, USA


- Gershman Carl, President of The National Endowment for Democracy, USA

- Hicks Neil, Director of International Programs, Human Rights First, USA

- Holbrooke Richard C., Council on Foreign Relations, USA

- Jackson Bruce, President, Project on Transitional Democracies, USA


- LeGendre Paul, Senior Associate, Fighting Discrimination Program, Human Rights First, USA

- Lowenkron Barry, U.S Department of State, Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy and Human Rights, USA

- McFaul Michael, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, USA


- Morris Dick, Political Adviser, USA



- Schliefer Marc, The National Endowment for Democracy, USA



- Squier John, Senior Program Officer for Russia and Ukraine, the National Endowment for Democracy, USA

Enough? Now tell me, and let all American fellowmembers of this forum be our judges - how many votes could collect in the US a party with such set of, let's say Chinese political advisers, "programm officers for the US and Mexico", and representatives of Chinese national endowment for democracy?
Do you know what patriotic Americans will say regarding the participation of such party in federal elections. I ask Americans here, guys, what would you say then?

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Actually I did not say Milli is responsible, and I asked you a question, do you deny the Holodomor? Yes or no?
Tell me first, why you expect me denying of accepting fact of deaths? Every scholar in Russia knows that in 30-s there was great hunger in Ukraine and on Volga. One more patch of global crime of the Bolshevicks over the nations of former Russian Empire. You know, revolutions don't lead to democracy, especially the imported ones. For instance great democratic revolutionaire Saakashvili in Georgia, behold, just couple years at power - and already thruncheons and gas against the opposition, hundreds of wounded, PM killed and hastily cremated. By the 1932 Stalin (also democratic revolutionaire from Georgia) was at power 8 years and didn't lose time too.

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So if it's not the Kremlin killing over 20+ journalists and interviewees and book writers that are critical of it, who is it then? Or did these people really just happen to fall off a building by accident?
That is right position. Who killed 20 journalists? Who killed the people in the streets in 1993 from sniper rifles, and then buried them in secret graves? Who killed Lev Rokhlin? There are many questions to answer. BTW the killed journalists was not critics of Kremlin only. For instance, the american citizen of Russian roots Paul Khlebnikov - real Russian patriot - led the research over Berezovsky activities and published the books. People say, Vlad Listyev had problems with oligarchs too. After his death both main TV channels were quickly seized by them and I'd say his death was the beginning of informational terror against Russian people.
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