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No problem. Another people do. Well, if you only read in English, then I offer you the simpler way. Welcome here All-Russian conference “The other Russia”
scroll down and watch the "List of Foreign guests". I give here the citing of "guests" from US organisations, which back the "Other Russia":
Enough? Now tell me, and let all American fellowmembers of this forum be our judges - how many votes could collect in the US a party with such set of, let's say Chinese political advisers, "programm officers for the US and Mexico", and representatives of Chinese national endowment for democracy?
Do you know what patriotic Americans will say regarding the participation of such party in federal elections. I ask Americans here, guys, what would you say then? |
Oleg, let me say this.
I would not like a delegation from a foreign country trying to influence my elections and I see where you're coming from, however it's not that simple and please read why
Russia is a new democracy and the fact that the Other Russia has chosen to identify with representatives from a country which they share their democratic values with does not mean we're bankrolling and 'propping up' Other Russia. You must also understand that 'Other Russia' is outgunned by the rollbacks of democracy by Vladimir Putin. They can't run TV ads, they can't have shows, their TV news gets shut down, so if you were in their position, why would you NOT accept or ask for any foreign help? The way it is now they have no chance of winning.
But I agree with you that this gives them a bad reputation. I would be angry too. I just wish Russians could be a little bit more constructive about these things and not accuse our country of plotting a "CIA coup" like many of your youth groups do.
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Tell me first, why you expect me denying of accepting fact of deaths? Every scholar in Russia knows that in 30-s there was great hunger in Ukraine and on Volga. One more patch of global crime of the Bolshevicks over the nations of former Russian Empire. You know, revolutions don't lead to democracy, especially the imported ones. For instance great democratic revolutionaire Saakashvili in Georgia, behold, just couple years at power - and already thruncheons and gas against the opposition, hundreds of wounded, PM killed and hastily cremated. By the 1932 Stalin (also democratic revolutionaire from Georgia) was at power 8 years and didn't lose time too.
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I'm not sure Georgia's political woes can compare to 3.5 million people killed in a Soviet-imposed famine. I do commend you though for acknowledging that as a crime, because your (Russian) government doesn't unfortunately.
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That is right position. Who killed 20 journalists? Who killed the people in the streets in 1993 from sniper rifles, and then buried them in secret graves? Who killed Lev Rokhlin? There are many questions to answer. BTW the killed journalists was not critics of Kremlin only. For instance, the american citizen of Russian roots Paul Khlebnikov - real Russian patriot - led the research over Berezovsky activities and published the books. People say, Vlad Listyev had problems with oligarchs too. After his death both main TV channels were quickly seized by them and I'd say his death was the beginning of informational terror against Russian people.
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So give me a few answers, don't just say it's a 'mystery.' If it's not the Kremlin who else would want people like Politskovkaya and Litivenko dead?