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Old 12-07-2007
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Re: Chavez Loses Election on 'Reforms'

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Originally Posted by Bnks View Post
The people supported Hitler, and elected him too; that doesn't make him democratic by any means.
So what makes a leader and a political system democratic then?

And the other side accuses the opposition (which already has a history of violence against the government) of inciting violence so they can blame it on the Chavistas. Who do you believe? There is no evidence either way.

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Anyway, I gave you facts (something you haven't done, by the way). You're going a little off topic expressing your opinion and the implications of each one, but if you want to start a thread, go ahead.
No. You gave me your opinions of why Chavez is authoritarian. The facts are on my side and speak for themselves. Chavez is an elected leader who has not violated the democratic constituition of Venezuela, and has recently respected the democratic voice of the people. Where is your evidence to the contrary of this reality??

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If you were such a die-hard socialist, you could've told me in the first place, and I wouldn't have wasted my time trying to educate you.
lol... im neither a socialist or a rabid free-marketer. And you have not enlightened me about anything. The only thing i support in regards to Venezuela is that the people decide their own future, without interference from the US or Europe. More than anything i support independence, and that is what we witnessed with the recent vote. Im only happy that it was democractic and free, i have no vested interest in the outcome.

Now, I'll ask again, do you have any evidence that supports your claim that Chavez is authoritarian and not just a bolivarian socialist? Because really, the evidence to the contrary is overwhelming.

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