[quote=PaleoRepublican;1120117]If you want to tackle spending, how about the big social programs taking up a majority of the federal budget. You have about 50 senators, and 300 Democrat congressmen to fight through, GOOD LUCK!
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Has the price of toys, cars, ANYTHING gone down since NAFTA and trade with other foreign cheap labor countries? NO!
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I didn't know NAFTA represented all drops in labor costs, EVER. That sure is new to me. I guess cheap labor didn't exist prior to NAFTA.
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1) Are you denying a business marks up the price of an item to make a profit?
2) Are you denying China doesn't have any internal taxation or export taxes? Every other country does.
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ROFL. Get back to proving what you said and answering my question rather than trying to dodge it by asking stupid "are you denying" questions.
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Of course a Libertarian would think slavery was free labor, with their twisted sort of logic. Most of the Confederate defenders are Libertarians today.
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Really? Well, that's an even greater incentive to be one, since they apparently figured out how to live forever.
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I am talking about the 100,000% inflation of the Confederacy, because all they did was print money, like your beloved free-trader buddies controlling our money supply today.
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What a totally retarded statement. Where did Ron Paul say he was going to "just print money" to drive inflation up? What a totally retarded statement.
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Slavery is the issue, its all about mindset. Libertarians and Confederate slavers can only think in terms of 'cheap labor', built their entire economy around it. It came crashing down on their faces.
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So because they both liked cheap labor, their economies will crash down on them? That has to be the dumbest correlation = causation statement I have ever seen.
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I am drawing a parallel between the mindset of a southern Democrat slaver Confederate, and the free traitors of today.
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Which is retarded, because it doesn't accomplish anything. Hey, let me try something. Hitler wore shoes, and so do protectionists. Thus, protectionism will lead to the Holocaust.
That statement uses your logic.
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What they did 150 years ago is as relevant as what is going on today. History shouldn't be forgotten, or we'll repeat the same mistake.
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I didn't forget history, I just realized that this particular event is totally irrelevant.
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You didn't get the memo? You can exploit another human being without putting chains on their feet and slapping them around with a bull whip. WELCOME TO THE 21ST CENTURY!
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Well, then I guess they are agreeing to it, so there is no problem.
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Not when it costs America its industrial capacity, gives Communist China an industrial capacity, millions of good paying jobs,
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I thought you just said they were practically slaves? Now the Chinese are getting good paying jobs?
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lowers the standard of living,
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Uh, what? The only way it would lower the standard of living is if Americans start competing. It will either send the jobs away or they will stay here and lower the standard of living, even assuming Americans don't just move to jobs that cannot be as easily sent overseas.
Imports poverty? What the hell does that mean?
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makes the average Chinese slave hate their American masters, and gets Democrats elected.
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Hate their masters? But I thought the Chinese were getting good paying jobs?
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Libertarian philosophy is, "Nobody should intrude on another's freedom." It is my business, this stuff doesn't happen in a vaccume. No company has the freedom to do foreign business, because the Constitution gives Congress the powers of tariff and regulation.
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We have the freedom to do whatever the government allows us to do. We are arguing what should or should not be allowed. I have presented a good argument, all you are saying is you should be allowed to hold a gun to the company's head because you are incompetent.
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If you have a problem with the Constitution then you have a problem with America.
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So the Constitution = America? I didn't know we lived on a sheet of paper.
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(Libertarians believe in extra-constitutional doctrine, so when you hear a Libertarian say something is unconstitutional, take it with a grain of salt.)
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What did I say that was unconstitutional? Provide the specific portion of the Constitution, please.
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Are you going to deny a business will not drastically undercut their competition less it drastically cuts into their profits?
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I'm not sure that sentence makes any sense. Can you rephrase?
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According to you, Americans should work for free, or at least 50 cents an hour.
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Nope, I never said that.
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I would rather trust the founding fathers then a lunatic Libertarian.
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The founding fathers aren't the ones in Congress right now, so you wouldn't be trusting them, anyway.
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The founding fathers ran the entire federal budget on tariffs.
Are you denying that if Congress never prohibited the states from imposing interstate tariffs that they never would impose tariffs? WOW! AMAZING! You have no idea how people think, politics, and how governments operate. If the commerce clause never existed, every state WOULD have tariffs.
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Rather than making statements that make you look foolish, why don't you prove what you said, huh?
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Your the anti-war protester latching onto Ron Paul. You have no idea what Libertarians really are.
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Ah, so I see you will not be backing up that comment you made. Noted.
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Well according to you, and according to Libertarians, Americans need to sacrifice much of their wages to stay "globally competative."
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Nope, they don't have to do that. Another option is to get a better job.
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So therefore YOU and your Libertarian bretheren really want Americans to work for as little as possible.
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Your logic is faulty.
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To accuse some Americans of being incompetent because they earn more then 50 cents an hour is to accuse ALL Americans of being incompetent.
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First of all, I didn't say anything about 50 cents. Second, if you feel the need to generalize about all Americans, that is your problem.
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Fat. Lazy. Obsolete. Ugly Americans. So you accuse.
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It is immoral to take advantage of the wage disparity between the United State worker, and a worker of a corrupt and/or Communist nation.
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Then don't do it. I have a feeling you aren't in a position to do it, in the first place.
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Not that I care about the foreign worker, I only care about making the most money myself.
You said the Constitution is not Authoritarian. It certainly is Authoritarian, being the highest law of the land.
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Where? I can't find where I said that.
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Most anti-war nuts are Democrat. Most Democrats are socialists to a degree. Socialism is the complete opposite of anarcho-capitalism which is Libertarianism.
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And? Are you saying I cannot share common values with some democrats unless I share all of their values? Am I not allowed to wear shoes because I am a libertarian, and those democrats wear shoes? Your argument gets dumber by the day.
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I thought you Libertarians want to legalize drugs.
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You thought right.
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The only thing a Socialist Congress and a Libertarian presidency will accomplish is the legalization of weed.
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Then elect more libertarians.