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Old 12-17-2007
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Re: Do You Carry A Gun?

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You say that like defending the lives of innocents is a BAD thing.
No I say it like someone who says "my hand was guided by god” is a religious lunatic.

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Yes, she's a churchgoer, but that hardly earns her the title of lunatic.
Someone who claims their hand was guided by god is and someone who says their hand was guided by god to kill someone is.

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It simply means she is a religious person who realized she had to do something difficult and believes it was God who helped her through it.
Spin it how you like . That’s your typical way of dealing with anything you find difficult to swallow at face value.

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Your position is obvious to all because of your total lack of facts combined with your condescension, refusal to review a single fact presented to you, dismissal of facts as if they didnt exist, etc.
I have accepted many facts and points put forward to me. You refuse to see what is written, only that which you want to believe.

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You're a stupid reactionary asshole when it comes right down to it crisis.
If you had a discussion like this with someone in a bar, for example, you'd end up getting your ass kicked just for the hell of it.
If you can’t debate rationally and sensibly without putting words in people’s mouths and using simplistic black and white logic then it is your problem if you get your undies in a bunch.

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It is only YOU who seems to think she is delusional. I, and many others, would view her comments as quite normal under the circumstances.
If I may?

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As far as I'm concerned anyone who kills someone for any reason and attributes responsibility for that act to a mythical being by stating my hand was guided by god is clinically delusional.
Does this make him “a stupid reactionary asshole” too. You know, because he disagreed with you?

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You'd know all about dismissing facts wouldnt you?
Which fact?

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The objects (guns) do not allow anything to occur. It is the behavior of human beings.
That’s right. And in this case the behaviour of human beings with guns.

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And if you and crisis didnt have such a pathologic aversion to religion, you'd realize that her statement was basically saying she's is happy its over and thankful no one else got hurt. I am certain neither she nor anyone else (except religion hating bigots) believes God was really talking to her or guiding her hand.
And I am certain you have no idea about how she feels but are, as usual, projecting your own spin on it to make it sound exactly how you want it to.

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A religious lunatic? Why? Because she believes that God led her through a difficult situation? I know that God has guided me through some truly devastating things in my life and there's been times that He's told me to do something and I did. No, I didn't hear voices but I did feel it in my heart and knew that it was God telling me what to do.
You are entitled to believe whatever you like. But the tolerance that non religious people are expected to give religious people becomes extremely strained when they claim god made me do it for everything they won’t take responsibly for themselves. Osama Bin Laden believes his hand is guided by god.

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That God gave the security guard direction to end a deadly rampage is of no surprise to me and believing it doesn't make me a lunatic.
That’s your take. Mine is she did what she did and let god take the rap.

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What would you expect ?

Anyone who would advertise their own personal crisis to the world by getting on an internet forum and calling themselves "crisis" is going to be a bit beyond any logical discussion
You would need a sense of humour and to understand the concept of self effacement to get it.
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