Originally Posted by WarOnIgnorance

There isn't anyone on 'the other side of the argument'. Nobody here is saying how cool honour kilings are.

There are those though that have the global perspective and knowledge to recognize that these things are not part of any broad culture or religion but are an aspect of various (small) subcultures. The nature of those subcultures varies along many lines. The one common factor is simply that the subculture puts 'honour' above everything else, including life.

This is indeed the case in some Islamic subcultures, but the simple fact that it isn't the case for all Islamic subcultures negates the idea it's inherently related to it. The IRA-UDF kilings are not Christian either.

Other subcultures where this issue is present have nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, e.g. Southern Italy, the extreme right (cf. Blood & Honour), many military subcultures, etc.