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Old 02-20-2008
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Re: Report; Zionist assassins bomb sleeping civilians.

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Originally Posted by 42 Regular View Post
Lets look at Dr. John Dugard for a moment.
And as usual your criticism of Dr. Dugard comes from a Wikipedia; you will notice that 42 Regular omits the link to his Wikipedia sources? Is that to hide the footnoted sources?

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Inside the state of Israel, there is no apartheid. In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest minority within its borders of any country in the Middle East. The official figure for Copts in Egypt is 10%. Non-Jews, mostly Arab Muslims, make up 20% of the Israeli population, and they enjoy full citizen's rights. Israel is one of the few Middle Eastern states where Muslim women are allowed to vote
Here is where Zionists twist Dr. Dugards position; Dr. Dugard made the Apartheid comparison in relation to Israeli actions and policy in the Occupied Palestinian Territories which are OUTSIDE of Israel. While we could attack Israel for banning Jew/gentile marriage, discriminating against Israeli-Arabs in budgets not to mention enacting laws to bar gentile Knesset members from challenging the Jewish nature of the state Dr. Dugard does no such thing...

His reports do not even address Israeli internal politics; so Wkipedia is throwing us a red herring argument.

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In 2003, South Africa's minister for home affairs Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi said that "The Israeli regime is not apartheid. It is a unique case of democracy".[42] According to Fred Taub, the President of Boycott Watch, "[t]he assertion ... that Israel is practicing apartheid is not only false, but may be considered libelous. ... The fact is that it is the Arabs who are discriminating against non-Muslims, especially Jews."[43]
What I find interesting is that the President of the Congress of South African Trade Unions said that what Israel practices is worse than SA Apartheid actually agreeing with Dr. Dugard:

The "apartheid Israel state" is worse than the apartheid that was conducted in South Africa, Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) president Willie Madisha said on Monday.

He said Palestinians were being attacked with heavy machinery and tanks used in war, which had never happened in South Africa.


'Apartheid Israel' worse than apartheid SA : Mail & Guardian Online

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John Dugard, a South African professor of international law and an ad hoc Judge on the International Court of Justice, serving as the Special Rapporteur for the United Nations on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories described the situation in the West Bank as "an apartheid regime ... worse than the one that existed in South Africa." [23]. Dugard has since become an outspoken critic of the separation barrier and of Israeli practices in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.[24]
And you will notice that 42 Regular does not provide any actual criticism of the Dr. Dugard's observations, conclusions and subsequence reports. He mere provides a Wikipedia article omitting the link likely fearing people may read the following counterpoints:

Israeli apartheid I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israeli apartheid II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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