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Old 02-28-2008
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Re: Report; Zionist assassins bomb sleeping civilians.

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ah, once again my laziness is showing. thank you.
The 7,000 number is disputed by the United Nations and I am inclined to take their word before that of a pro-Israel source like "Jpost." Since disengagement 7,000 rockets have not been fired...

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note the published date of " Jan 25, 2008 ", that means a full month on kassams not registered. i would guess the total number since disengagement about 5000 or so. a significant number since israel rendered itself jew free in the gaza.
According to the UN a little over 2,600+ were fired between 2004 and late 2007. In addition to this attacks in the first two months of 2008 at best would bring the number to 2,800 depending on the source used.

Second, Israel has not relinquished control over Gaza; Gaza is not "Jew free."

III. THE OCCUPATION OF GAZA

11. The test for determining whether a territory is occupied under international law is effective control,8 and not the permanent physical presence of the occupying Power's military forces in the territory in question. Judged by this test it is clear that Israel remains the occupying Power as technological developments have made it possible for Israel to assert control over the people of Gaza without a permanent military presence.9 Israel's effective control is demonstrated by the following factors:

(a) Substantial control of Gaza's six land crossings: the Erez crossing is effectively closed to Palestinians wishing to cross to Israel or the West Bank. The Rafah crossing between Egypt and Gaza, which is regulated by the Agreement on Movement and Access entered into between Israel and the Palestinian Authority on 15 November 2005 (brokered by the United States, the European Union and the international community's envoy for the Israeli disengagement from Gaza), has been closed by Israel for lengthy periods since June 2006. The main crossing for goods at Karni is strictly controlled by Israel and since June 2006 this crossing too has been largely closed, with disastrous consequences for the Palestinian economy;

(b) Control through military incursions, rocket attacks and sonic booms: sections of Gaza have been declared "no-go" zones in which residents will be shot if they enter;

(c) Complete control of Gaza's airspace and territorial waters;

(d) Control of the Palestinian Population Registry: the definition of who is "Palestinian" and who is a resident of Gaza and the West Bank is controlled by the Israeli military. Even when the Rafah crossing is open, only holders of Palestinian identity cards can enter Gaza through the crossing; therefore control over the Palestinian Population Registry is also control over who may enter and leave Gaza. Since 2000, with few exceptions, Israel has not permitted additions to the Palestinian Population Registry.

The fact that Gaza remains occupied territory means that Israel's actions towards Gaza must be measured against the standards of international humanitarian law.


A/HRC/7/17 of 21 January 2008

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There is nothing to retort; voluntary human shields who do not attack any target are protected persons under international law and they should be treated humanely. However, I have little evidence that the Palestinians routinely use human shields. I have plenty of evidence though that Israel uses indiscrimate bombing tactics under the guise that they were attacking sites shielded by civilians.

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