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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor

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Originally Posted by RFK1968 View Post
The only major difference between the McCain and Obama situations is the one that the religious zealot chooses to make distinct. It is the religious zealot who claims to decide the degree to which an individual's associations should be scrutinized. Intelligent people understand that individuals should be judged based on their own merit, on their own words, and on their own actions. When we start viewing our candidates through the lense of religious ideology, we won't be the same country.
I have googled to death.....it appears the endorsement by hagee of McCain is, what it appears to be, an endorsement as McCain attempts to tack for votes...EVERY pol. Parachutes into churchs, businesses, schools, day care centers, you name it in an attempt to garner votes. Show the colors etc. Its what they do. I don’t necessarily hold it against a candidate to pander for votes, tack into here to fore positions not concretely held, i.e. flipping some past votes or positions so as to make themselves more palatable to whom they are attempting to sway. It’s the game.

There was no parachuting in, by Obama. This was no tack for votes in his district as his district will not be electing him for local office and if he had too, he could go without those 10,000 votes. This was 20 years, and a close relationship. It is impossible for me to believe after all the meetings, street walks in whch he meets constituents that are members of this church, who listen to these sermons, building their infrastructure , dinners, socializing, after 20 years of knowing a man, you have never heard these views.
Its simply defies imagination.

I have had friends far less than 20 years and seeing each other even just 2-3 times a month I know what this persons views are, what they hold as values, and they don’t preach to me nor have we ever worked in a racially charged atmosphere nor attempted to build a program or process regards neighborhood outreach etc.

Obama knew, he knew on some level or many levels what wright felt and what he has said. I’d say after several years of friendship with someone that if you didn’t know, then what kind of close relationship could you have had? And clearly there is no question they had one.

Obama probably made decision at some point that this would never be an issue, and his meteoric rise is now working against him. He is being vetted before our very eyes. Every politician who runs for office has been or will be. Hillarys strength in some eyes is; “Its all old news”. She has a built in inoculation as this is so, peoples’ attention spans are short and some may say; yea, been there heard that. She has carefully maneuvered herself as a "moderate" in the senate to assist in shucking some of her past.

Obama as he is so new, irrevocably, will be vetted in situ. These things are going to come up. If he had had another 4- 5 years in congress and had distanced himself from wright, now, this would probably not be an issue. He distancing himself because he has no choice and right up until his first disavowal les than 2 months ago, and if you watched him, and read, I mean read his statement and transcript of such, he didn’t exactly sound nor look very convincing.

Oh, and are you aware that wrights sermons some of which, holding these views has been for many years available on-line through his site for purchase?

This Obamas Gary Hart moment. I thought Hart by and large got a raw deal, I don't want Obama to get a raw deal. But this isn't some one off cruise or dinner party.
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