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Old 03-17-2008
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor

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Originally Posted by Lost Soul View Post
Obama pastor does not see Africa as a bunch of smaller nations and states but as a whole much the same as Russia saw the USSR.

Sorry I didnt state this earlier, I thought you Obamabots would understand where your boy and his spiritual advisor were coming from. Africa to them is the motherland where there is no nations, only a land where Africans are seen as one and the same all from the same existent. Not counting South Africa where there are plenty of white people. Before Africa is whole again, the white people must be eradicated from it shores.

So Obama must be just as racist as his spiritual leader.

This is now why I go to a mixed church when I go. I got tried of hearing how bad the white man is, how the white man has his foot on the necks of black people, how black people cont to be held back by the white man. If you hear the same shit over and over you start to believe it. The majority of the black churches I have attended preach the same crap. Then blame the white man as being the only racists. Black people are and can be just or more so as racist as any white person I have known.
I am no Obamabot - to be perfectly honest I'm not too sure that he would be my preferred canditate.

I just take an outsider's POV.

So you don't like Blacks whining about racism in the US? so what are YOU doing to make sure that blacks are not disadvantaged?

I've seen enough of US history to know that even today the scars of institutionalised racism continue to disadvantage black US citizens.

I've also seen enough about the US to know that what the Rev may well be criticising is reasonable.

I often ask myself how the richest country in the world has a lower life expectancy than other western nations, how it has a higher infant mortality rate, how come, despite the best quality hospitals and top medical researchers, so many US citizens can't afford decent health care, why your average educational standards are below those of other OECD nations, how it has the highest per capita rate of imprisonment in the world, how come it is second only to China in terms in the number of executions, how the justice system appears to make so many mistakes, (I've seen/heard two programmes in the last couple of says where survivors of your justice system's injustice were sentenced to long perids of solitary confinement, and then found innocent,or sentenced to death, and then found innocent), how 8 people under 18 get killed by guns every day in the US (ie in a year thats more than the total number killed on 911), and people just gloss over this as if its not an issue, how come the richest nation has the greatest income differential of any OECD nation (something the rest of us associate with the third world) .... and thats BEFORE we start looking at your relationships with other nations ...

Seems to me if the Rev was saying God Damn America twasn't a bad thing - because it might make people sit up and take notice and ask what the fuck is wrong with "the greatest nation on earth."
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