Somehow I missed all of the above but as the maverick I am I too have a comment.

As Catholic and a kid I sat in church and listened to the pastor say in effect my mother along with all protestents could not go the heaven.

As an adult I understand the present Pope has basically said the same thing.

The point is; as adults your need to accept this kind of bullshit equates to your maturity level or lack of such in your decision making capabilities.

We IMO are now seeing the professional whores at work (especially the Clinton crowd) trying to discredit Obama because of his membership in a particular church with a particular pastor. Should the entire Catholic congregation leave the church because of the proclivity of too many priests
to have homosexual unions with other homosexuals or with children. The protestants as well are not free of this problem.

Had Obama's pastor finished his sentence with the words Administration not America I would have agreed with him. Was he right about our countries actions bringing on 9-11. Probably !

Well, in any event Obama voices the need for change and he is the only one not tainted with either an appetite or a vote for war. His personal understanding of the effects of both side of the economic function put him ahead of his competitors regardless of their mud slinging efforts.

I posted a lengthy piece titled "The great Irish Famine",There is a great deal to be learned from its contents in respect to the road we are traveling.
At the end of that road a once powerful nation (as all such empires have wound up) have either been destroyed or diminished in world standing.

Is this too to be our lot. ?

Clean out the "whorehouse" !