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Originally Posted by goober
You know, I'd bet dollars to donuts (I know it's even money now, but the expression used to mean "I'd give big odds") that most of the time that pastor talks about Jesus, and brotherhood, and all the stuff you'd hear in any Christian church in America, and that every now and then he goes a little over the top to make a point, and the congregation takes it in stride because that's the way he is.
I've seen the clips, but I don't think that those clips represent what happens in that church on a typical Sunday.
I just don't believe that his run of the mill Sunday Sermon is a racist hate message. If it was, then I think a politically savvy guy like Barack Obama would have split a long time ago.
It just doesn't make sense any other way............
And after listening to Obama's speech on the subject, I can't find any fault with Obama.
I grew up in an America where people told nigger jokes and spic jokes and polack jokes and guinea jokes, and felt very comfortable doing so as long as the targeted minority was not present in the group, racism was a part of the American culture. A twisted evil part of the culture, to be sure.
but as Solzhenitsyn wrote
"Wouldn't it be wonderful, to take all the evil people and put them over there, then we wouldn't have to deal with them. And all of us good people would stay right here. The problem is that the line separating good and evil cuts right through the human heart. And who can cut out their own heart?"
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Obama's problem is credibility. He is exposed as a liar and a hypocrite.
He condemned Imus a few months back.
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October 2007:
“I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus. But I would also say that there’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude. … He didn’t just cross the line. He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. The notions that as young African-American women — who I hope will be athletes — that that somehow makes them less beautiful or less important. It was a degrading comment. It’s one that I’m not interested in supporting.”
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But then makes excuses for Jeremiah Wright who said far more offensive things. WTF? That is hypocrisy, period.
Obama says that he is "shocked, shocked," at what Jeremiah Wright said, that he was not in the church when pastor Wright said those things from the pulpit. Really? Are we really to believe that lie? If that was the case why did he dis-invite Reverend Wright from his candidacy announcement a year ago? It is hard to imagine that someone with ears as large as Obama's cannot hear! But even if Obama never heard firsthand (or from the thousands of other members of the church or from the numerous tapes that were for sale at the church) exactly what his pastor was saying, he still spent 20 years in that racist church!! And not just as an ordinary member, but as someone who once donated $20,000 to the church. Sorry Goober, there is no fucking way that he didn't know about Jeremiah Wright's anti-American and racist diatribes and views. No way at all. He is lying to us. What a shock!! A politician from the Chicago political machine that, gasp, tells lies!! Oh my......
Remember, a con man's job is not to convince skeptics but to enable people to continue to believe what they already want to believe. You want to believe, you need to believe! Therefore you will believe. I only hope the Kool-aid is cold and delicious........