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Originally Posted by goober
You know, I'd bet dollars to donuts (I know it's even money now, but the expression used to mean "I'd give big odds") that most of the time that pastor talks about Jesus, and brotherhood, and all the stuff you'd hear in any Christian church in America, and that every now and then he goes a little over the top to make a point, and the congregation takes it in stride because that's the way he is.
I've seen the clips, but I don't think that those clips represent what happens in that church on a typical Sunday.
I just don't believe that his run of the mill Sunday Sermon is a racist hate message. If it was, then I think a politically savvy guy like Barack Obama would have split a long time ago.
It just doesn't make sense any other way............
And after listening to Obama's speech on the subject, I can't find any fault with Obama.
I grew up in an America where people told nigger jokes and spic jokes and polack jokes and guinea jokes, and felt very comfortable doing so as long as the targeted minority was not present in the group, racism was a part of the American culture. A twisted evil part of the culture, to be sure.
but as Solzhenitsyn wrote
"Wouldn't it be wonderful, to take all the evil people and put them over there, then we wouldn't have to deal with them. And all of us good people would stay right here. The problem is that the line separating good and evil cuts right through the human heart. And who can cut out their own heart?"
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Go to the church's site and see if you think the same way.
Trinity United Church of Christ
I chose a random direct feed that was in the archives in Feb. of this year and watched one of his sermons. After all of the singing and dancing was over with, which is normal in most churches, and the introductions, he started in talking about
Slavery and
Brier Rabbit.
It seems Rev. Wright is living in the past. If you want to hear about slavery over and over again sit in on services at the Trinity United Church. Or you could just rent Roots.
You brought up a good point. Those racist jokes were left behind in the 60s and aren't used anymore. If it seemed normal to you.....
it was because that was the way America was back then. America has changed, but blacks don't seem to know this.
Now we know why.
The racist rhetoric that passes for normality
TODAY.......AT THIS MOMENT has not been left behind by blacks. It only re enforces the divisions in this country and perpetuates their hatred towards whites,
a hatred that most of us have left behind. A hatred that some of us always felt was wrong in the first place and never agreed with.
Black history month is an example of the government reminders of their hated past. Blacks are constantly reminded by their pastor of their history. Many of them have never seen discrimination in any institutional form yet they all feel discriminated. Many of them have no right to complain.
Obama is one who has no right to complain about his upbringing. Yet he feels he is one of them and so he identifies with their version of black history, the version that Rev. Wright teaches. Constant reminders of slavery and discrimination by their pastors and peers is the big ugly secret they can't admit to in public. They can admit this among themselves but not around whites.
This may be a good thing because a secret like this needed to be exposed.
Obama's defenders are claiming that we can't base our opinions off of snippets and sound bites. Many of the black pastors in America don't preach this way. Rev. Fredrick K. Price is one that I've been listening to for at least 10 years. He never has said things like Rev. Wright. Obama had a choice in all of this. He could have found a pastor that was teaching the real gospel like Rev. Price, but instead he chose somebody like Rev. Wright. This tells me something about Obama.
To be honest with you, with some blacks their history is their reason for existence. They wouldn't change it even if they could. It's what gives them a purpose in life. Nobody can do anything about it. We can't change anything for them. Our job is to just listen to them tell us about it and that's it.
Even though most of their complaints are baseless don't you dare disagree with them. If you do you're labeled a racist. We couldn't possibly understand the
"Black Experience".
Some people that spend their lives complaining about everything aren't really interested in solutions. They just like to complain.