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Originally Posted by Oreo
With all due respect. You're not going to imply that I am a racist. It was the author of the message that I was addressing "whom" was stating: That ALL black inner city churches preach this kind of hate "at least" 2% of the time in their churches.
My representation to ALL means that Barack Obama needs to be representative of ALL, which means Everyone in this country. As common sense would tell us, he can't be representative of all, if he is a 20 year member of a racist, separatist church (regardless if it is a white or a black church).
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So because of a couple snippets over a 20 year period--longer in Wright's case--this is the conclusion. I'm just trying to get an exchange over why. I am glad you don't see yourself as racist. I don't believe you are in the way most use the term (bigot), but there are subtle things we all see or miss by our experiences that lead to bias. I've even caught them in me too. It's generally fallacious for anyone, myself included, to claim they are absolutely free of biases, noticed or unnoticed.
Explain to me why, then, are you not equally bashing and applying the same strict policy towards the large number of evangelicals who say such highly controversial things, including blaming Americans' behaviours as bringing on 9.11, Katrina, etc, as God's wrathful response, attacking gays, liberals and all sorts of Americans and blaming them for American tragedies through heaven's wrath, etc:
YouTube - The Religious Reaction to the 9/11 Attacks
YouTube - John Hagee says God sent Katrina
McCain and/or other GOPers have long expressly courted the very people or kinds of people in these videos. You'll be running out of people to vote for, or even neighbours, if such a view is applied to everyone equally as Obama.
I'm not anti-homosexual for example. I don't believe it should be outlawed and punished. Churches may differ on their views, but the Catholic one certainly condemns it. Yet, by going to the Mass (I was raised in the Quaker and Catholic churches), I don't believe all Catholics are strongly anti-homosexual or even any kind of anti-homosexual on a personal level. Opinions will range across the map on it. I know plenty of Baptists. I'd be hard pressed to assume most agree with leaders like those in the video who find homosexuals to be abominations and that they are actually a reason God made 9.11 happen to the US.
The fact, I believe, is that people attend churches and do alot of discriminating about the things they hear. Had Obama endorsed those controversial comments of Wright, that would be a much different story. I couldn't vote for a person who endorsed them. He's also repudiated Farrakhan's endorsement when called to do so, and that's even better than watching McCain seek and then reaffirm, over objections in the public, the endorsements of anti-Catholic bigot Hagee and other firebrands. But, McCain when, in courting the religious right, to state his own mind that he does not agree with many controversial things they have said too. I accept that. John McCain, like Obama, are allowed to speak their own minds on matter of faith as well as social policy. Nobody speaks for another by a proxy. Everyone speaks for themselves. That is the kind of fairness I am speaking about.