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Re: NYPD officers acquitted of all charges in shooting of Sean Bell

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The thing that angers me is that these men fired fifty shots at Sean, then have the gall to claim it was some sort of 'self defence'?
There were multiple officers and typically they are trained to shoot to stop the threat. A 9mm pistol bullet doesnt have much effect on a car. In addition, it isnt like the movies. In real life, in a life or death situation, yes, you can (and frequently WILL) miss your target even when they are close. The fight-or-flight response dumps HUGE amounts of adrenaline into your system and fine motor control is a fantasy.
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The man was unnarmed,
I dont know about you, but most people consider a 3500lb blunt object to be a hell of a weapon. Yes Sharon, a car is considered a weapon.
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and even if he was armed with a weapon of some type,
He was - his car.
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he was up against four policemen with guns, who knew how to use them.
ROFL! Now THATS a laugh. Cops really are pretty bad shots when it comes down to it, and the simple fact of the matter is, a 9mm sidearm is a terrible match for an automobile.
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Even he was armed, against four armed policemen he would never have stood a chance.
This is a common misconception among those who know nothing about firearms, and specifically about the use of them by law enforcement. Again, he WAS armed, and he was armed with a very effective weapon.
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I don't believe there was any reason for so many bullets to have been fired.
Yes there was. Cops are trained to shoot to stop the threat. In fact, that is good advice for ANYONE who is defending themselves. In addition, they would have ALL fired and they likely would fire until the magazines were empty. That doesnt take that long, and when under stress (and yes a gunfight is an EXTREMELY stressful situation) it is quite believable they would empty their guns at the threat. They were probably still pulling the triggers after the slides locked open. Thats just how these things work.

Expert testimony would of course have presented this information to the judge.
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It simply wasn't justified, self defence or not.
As we can all see, you really do not have the knowledge to make that determination Sharon. You know nothing of firearms, nothing of tactics and nothing of the situation itself.
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These men used excessive force,
No they didnt.
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and I am shocked they were acquitted.
I'm not.

For clarification, i have no love for cops and will be the first one to say they probably shouldn't be armed 99% of the time, but the reality is, this was a good shoot. You may not LIKE that fact - but it IS a fact.
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