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Originally Posted by Slon
You're dodging the question, Steve. If the decision to use deadly force has been made, then what you are telling me is that it is deadly force even if the trigger is not pulled?
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That's correct.
In fact, I believe Erik pointed that out already...
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"Deadly force is a level of force which is inherently likely to cause death or great bodily injury. Firearms, bladed weapons, explosives, and vehicles are among those weapons the use of which is considered deadly force."
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If you draw your weapon, you are, in fact, using it...
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This is a forum to debate politics, so opinions on politics, on the forum called US Politics Online, DO matter. It's the entire premise of the forum. Sorry if you missed it.
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We're not debating politics, we're debating the law.
Sorry if you missed it...
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Sure you do: the utter lack of physical evidence that he actually has one, along with the chance that he is kidding.
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Sorry, but that just doesn't wash. I don't know if the guy's joking. I must then act accordingly to protect myself if a feel threatened. In such scenarios, it's prudent to assume the worst case scenario...
If the guy says he's got a gun, and then quickly reaches under his jacket, he's getting shot. Period...
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What would be accurate is to say that the only "evidence" you have of his possession of a firearm is what you assume to be the meaning of what he said.
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If he says "I have a gun", yeah, I'll assume he has a gun. It would be idiotic to assume he didn't, if for no other reason than it's idiotic to joke about having a gun...