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Originally Posted by Steve
That's correct.
In fact, I believe Erik pointed that out already...
If you draw your weapon, you are, in fact, using it...
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So merely POINTING a gun at someone, without firing, "is inherently likely to cause death or great bodily injury?"
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We're not debating politics,
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Then you missed the point of this forum.
Debating law is a part of debating politics.
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Sorry if you missed it...
Sorry, but that just doesn't wash. I don't know if the guy's joking.
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But then you don't know if he is serious. Many people won't tell you they are getting a gun if they want to kill you. Some will. Others will perceive telling you that they have a gun for what it is: the worst time to kill you. You simply never know.
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I must then act accordingly to protect myself if a feel threatened. In such scenarios, it's prudent to assume the worst case scenario...
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Might as well act that way always. Both situations lack physical evidence of the possession of a gun by the other party.
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If the guy says he's got a gun, and then quickly reaches under his jacket, he's getting shot. Period...
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Hopefully it's a wallet.
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If he says "I have a gun", yeah, I'll assume he has a gun.
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It's mostly a baseless assumption. It suggests a bit of gullibility.
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It would be idiotic to assume he didn't, if for no other reason than it's idiotic to joke about having a gun...
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You don't have to assume either way. Just know that a guy who jokes about having a gun, and a guy who does not say anything, both have equal levels of physical evidence of having a gun. If you decide to shoot the joker, you might as well shoot everyone.