Diagramming is fun for the whole family!
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And, of course, none of this provides any evidence that the left "hates America,"
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Yeah, burning flags and calling our own leaders and/or troops war criminals is the hallmark of true patriotism! Having your talking points match those of our enemy is just an expression of "tough love"!
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or that we on the left believe that "any war, any time" is unwinnable.
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I suppose I can see how you might read what I wrote and incorrectly interpret it.
This --> "Our certain defeat (any war, any time) is only a 'fact' in the America-hating leftist [semblance of a] mind."
Means --> "That America is
certain to lose this war or any other war of which you can recall or conceive - past, present, or future - is something factual only to somebody who hates my country." + "My country is hated by a healthy portion of the left." Using the symmetric and transitive properties of stuff, in general, you arrive at my original statement.
Does not mean --> "The left (or anybody else), in general, believes no war, at any time, is 'winnable'." Only a slight percentage of the Rabid Left are delusional enough to actually subscribe to that "war/violence solves nothing" bullshit.
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And, of course, you seem to always insert an insult. Why can't you try to be at least a little bit civil?
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I would not call the left to which I am referring "rational", "responsible", or "civil". I am not compelled to be nice to them.
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And, after that, you could actually try to address the posts!

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I did. You and your friend, there, did not. I will not reiterate for a third time the points you have not addressed.
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Oh, and for the record, my hippie mom never dropped acid. She never burned her bra. She did, however, volunteer for the USO. She had many friends who were soldiers, and she lost several of them in Vietnam.
But, funny how reality destroys those gross generalizations you seem to like so much.
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I don't care if your mom is Phyllis Schlafly. My generalizations apply, um, in
general. Nowhere did I suggest that you had to be a card carrying member of the group to which I am referring to make my point --> It wasn't the Young Republicans out there dropping acid and setting flags aflame with their draft cards.
It is quite possible object to any given war, as an entity unto itself, without hating your country and, often, cheering on defeat. The vocal left has yet to figure out a way to do this, however.