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Originally Posted by Bunz
well lets move this to the breaking news section then
Im a working class blue collar voter, and so are all my friends. Guess who we are supporting? Obama.
But lets have a look at the states he has won that are predominatly white and chalk full of middle class folks who often times turned out in record numbers to support him.
Iowa, Maine, Colorado, North Dakota, Kansas, Idaho, Alaska, Minnesota, Nebraska, Washington, Delaware, Missouri, Texas, Utah, Wisonsin.
I just gave you a list of 15 states, most of whom had record turnouts for this primary, and they are a mix of red and blue states, but the one thing they have in common is they are mostly white, mostly working class. He won all of these. I could go on, but I think the proof is in the pudding. He can win the working class voters and he has.
This whole notion about him being an elitist and not capturing middle class voters is just a bunch of parrots repeating what your talk radio and cable pundits tell you to.
Everyone seem to be overlooking at the methods of attack by his opponents. How in the fuck can Hillary and McCain claim with a straight face that he is an elitist, especially when it comes to those two, or "Rush get me some more pills Limbaugh"
Do you know why he appeals to regular people, because he is honest, he doesnt attack like the others, he lets his policies and his vision for the country speak for itself. What the average middle class American is sick of, is the same bad actors getting recycled in the same tired roles. He is a human being, not a robot. Sure he isnt perfect and nobody is, and if you are looking for perfection in a President you need to move to somewhere else because you will be disappointed in America.
Why cant we collectively raise above this bullshit after 5 years of war, and 8 years of divisiveness. It is time for change. I am not better off now than I was 8 years ago, I am not better off than I was even 4 years ago. I am a hell of a lot worse off to be honest, and I know Im not the only one. So why would I want more of the same?
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You fall right into the trap. All 3 candidates are "elite" politicians. That's my point. Obama is an "elite" to most of us regular folks, because he's a bit smarter and ahead of us on any number of pressing issues. Why is that so bad though?
You just said how can they claim Obama to be an elitist. But all three of them are, and that's precisely why they should be president more than the average person.
It's great that Obama got all that support in those states, but remember that many of those voters were Independents and Republicans who voted in the Democrat primary. When it comes to Ohio and Pennsylvania and Florida, the 3 most crucial states in November since you must win at least two of those to be President, Obama did not carry any of these against Clinton. And it was because of old people and the rural vote, who continue to vote on bullshit issues like guns and gays and faith instead of the more pressing issues of our time like global warming, jobs, the deficits, social security, and the two endless wars.
Again, what I'm saying is, in America, why is so bad to be seen as an elite politician? What does it say about national character that regular people are so offended by someone who might be just a little notch above their everyday ignorance that they call them a snob the minute they learn that someone else might be smarter than them? JFK was the last president that people voted for because they wanted someone better than them, someone smarter, a real leader. Ever since then it's been all superficiality, with regular people always voting for the guy who shakes hands best and "sounds just like us".
There are always exceptions to the rule, which you and your family certainly are. But right now, Obama's big problem is courting the working class vote in the places it matters most. These people vote for the craziest things, and they get scared very effectively by nonsense and bullshit issues. It's just really sad that Obama is going to have to dumb himself down to reach these people, rather than pulling people up, if you know what I mean.
But getting up to speed and learning something means that you have to admit that you didn't know something, and nowadays people get all bent out of shape by having to admit when their eyes have opened to something and they just savage the teacher instead of just learning and growing.