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Re: Massive Oil Deposit could Increase US reserves by 10x

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Originally Posted by Andrewl View Post
But of all the possible proposals to do something (or nothing at all) Al Gore's market based proposals are fairly middle of the road and don't really call for much in the way of lifestyle changes or even sacrifices. I would have thought americans would be in favor of the small incremental steps Al Gore has proposed.

And since when do americans criticize people for making money (even if they are convinced it is based in lies or it is harmful to someone else)?
Neither of these are issues with me (well, taking incremental steps is because you know I see issues with the science). My issue with Gore is that he is going around as the preeminent voice of AGW trying to get people on board while he stands to gain financially from it.

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BTW, the majority of americans already accept that AGW is a reality, and they have for quite some time now.

Andrew
I don't buy this at all. For example, wasn't it Gore who just said on 60 minutes that there is going to be a 300 million dollar media campaign for GW? Why is this needed if the majority believes it?

I think the majority of Americans believe warming has happened but I don't think the majority of them think it's from CO2.

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