Originally Posted by TSGracchus

Norrin, I'm going to make you a suggestion. It's just a suggestion, but it would help you to be taken more seriously if you can do this.

With your next post, please state in a single paragraph exactly what you are claiming about the state of education in the U.S. Do not supply evidence for this claim. (You can do that later, if and when it's questioned.) Do not present the words of others. Do not present links. And don't worry about the fact that you won't have "proven" anything. Just say what it is you are claiming is the case. Because, to be quite honest, it's very difficult to tell what you're trying to say from the blizzard of stuff you posted earlier.

Example:

"The education of children in this country is tailored by federal government policies to fit an agenda which was laid down by several tax-free foundations in the last century. This agenda consists of (X, Y, Z). Children are raised to believe in (X, Y, Z) in school, and that provides support for certain governmental policies which we have today. The federal government insures that these beliefs will be included in school curricula through (Q, R, S)."

Now I think that might be something sort of close to what you are saying, but you'll note that I was unable to make a good guess as to what X, Y, Z are, or Q, R, S. You have not been remotely clear on this yourself.

Can you do this? If you do, then perhaps we will have a basis for discussion, or at least something to discuss. If one or more of your points is then questioned, then (and only then) would it be appropriate to bring in evidence to back it up.

If you don't or you can't, then when people don't take you seriously, you have no one but yourself to blame.

Originally Posted by Norrin Radd

So, you are telling me, instead of using the words of well respected people, I should use my own words and not worry about providing evidence to support my claims?

If I did this, I would be like every other pathetic loser who posts on discussion forums without providing a shred of evidence to back up their opinions.

Sorry, but I am not a pathetic loser. I actually know what I am talking about, unlike 90% of the people who post on discussion forums.

Either you care about the truth, or you do not.

Obviously most of the people at this forum don't give a flying fuck about the truth.

Originally Posted by Si modo

No Norrin. That's not what he is telling you. You have three posters here who see the potential of your posts and want to clearly hear what you have to say. You could easily be dismissed, but three posters see something in your posts, but not enough.

You've been given suggestions on how to improve the transmission of your message. You keep throwing out the suggestions with veiled insults to posters who are trying to help you. Consider that.

Consider the suggestions of some patient posters.