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Re: Is Obama Trying To Start A Race-War In America?

Hello CMSux,

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Originally Posted by CorpMediaSux View Post
When Ted Kennedy then hopes that Obama should be killed by "confusing" the two, you may have a point.
Considering what you have said about Rush I am inclined to not believe your truthfulness.

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1. Can you clarify what you mean by "racist."
To judge a person on the color of their skin, to act or set policy either positively or negatively only on skin color. Racial quotas and Jim Crow are based on racist beliefs -- the first a positive benefit, the second a negative -- both based on a negative view of African-Americans. My Oxford University Press Dictionary defines Racism as: 1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races.

Rev. Wright has expressed his belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. His whole diatribe about his alleged differences in how blacks and whites learn is racist. And he has expressed his antagonism towards other races -- specifically towards whites. Whites creating AIDS to kill off blacks is based on a conspiracy lie that is inherently racist.

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I have an idea of what it means, but I have a feeling that much of this discussion has to due with the way those on the right have raised the bar for "racism" to a ridiculous level. Essentially you have to don a KKK outfit and advocate for the return to Jim Crow segregation and lynchiing in order to be labelled a "racist" by the right. Oddly enough, the OTHER way you get labelled a racist is if you're a civil rights activist who calls out racism, somehow that's called "race baiting."
When Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson play their games they are engaged in "race baiting" and are expressing their own racism. When Sharpton (who I actually think is very likable when he is not engaging in the race baiting and is very funny) and other civil rights leaders make the claim that African-Americans cannot be racists, because they lack the power -- they are expressing racism.

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Though no one can explain exactly why. Who is being baited? How does that baiting translate into tension. Do civil rigths activists manufacture these things. If so, can you point to some examples.
Here is one.

Tawana Brawley controversy
For more details on this topic, see Tawana Brawley
On November 28, 1987, Tawana Brawley, a 15-year-old black girl, was found smeared with feces, lying in a garbage bag, her clothing torn and burned and with various slurs and epithets written on her body in charcoal. Brawley claimed she had been assaulted and raped by six white men, some of them police officers, in the village of Wappingers Falls, New York.

Attorneys Alton H. Maddox and C. Vernon Mason joined Sharpton in support of Brawley. A grand jury was convened; after seven months of examining police and medical records, the jury determined that Brawley had fabricated her story.
Al Sharpton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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2. I have tons and tons of evidence of Limbaugh racism. I'll let him hang himself with his own words.

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“I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark
I have listened to Rush for years and I have to say I have never heard him say anything like what you quote above. Do you have an audio link where I can hear Rush say the above in the full context. Or is this something off MediaMatters that has been taken far far out of context?

A month or so ago History Channel did a show The History of the Joke. One of the segments was on what is not appropriate to joke about and they interviewed several different comedians. Race, of course, came up. Some won't touch it while others were willing. One guy, who happened to be white, was willing to tell jokes about Black culture and he has found that the only ones who are uncomfortable about his jokes were white liberals, not African-Americans.

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Intense. Not only is he factually innacurate, we had slavery for three centuries if you include the colonial period. But he's actually saying that the death of nearly a million Africans in the middle passage, the systemic rape of black women and the total dehumanization of black people wasn't "so bad" because it economically "built the South."
And probably something you made up or was taken way way out of context.

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Here's Limbaugh talking about the potential to intervene in Darfur. He also takes the opportunity to denigrate Nelson Mandela and claim that sanctioning Apartheid in South Africa was a "plot" by Democrats to appeal to black voters, rather than the right thing to do.
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LIMBAUGH: Yeah. This is -- you're not going to believe this, but it's very simple. And the sooner you believe it, and the sooner you let this truth permeate the boundaries you have that tell you this is just simply not possible, the better you will understand Democrats in everything. You are right. They want to get us out of Iraq, but they can't wait to get us into Darfur.

CALLER: Right.

LIMBAUGH: There are two reasons. What color is the skin of the people in Darfur?

CALLER: Uh, yeah.

LIMBAUGH: It's black. And who do the Democrats really need to keep voting for them? If they lose a significant percentage of this voting bloc, they're in trouble.

CALLER: Yes. Yes. The black population.LIMBAUGH: Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela -- who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.
That is obviously not in its full context and what specifically did Rush say that was racist? Also the CALLER brought up Mandela (who was bankrolled by communists) and South Africa -- not Rush. It has become a standard practice of Democrats to issue token rhetoric that is designed to (they hope) give a wink to African-American feelings of injustice.

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A fun sampler of Limbaugh quotes.
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You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed
Again give me a audio link in full context with Rush saying that. Otherwise I'll conclude you are just making this stuff up.

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Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?

If this is NOT race baiting/racism..what is?
Again present an audio link. More likely it is you without a sense of humor, suffering from white guilt, and deeply influenced by political correctness.

I hate racists and racism and do not accept it from anyone.

tashi deleks,

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