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Originally Posted by erikvv
I believe you know what my point is.
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I don't know what your point is. If you're going to assert that my property belongs to everyone else, I don't see how that's any different from communist ideology.
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If it wasn't for the rest of you people I myself would not have the things I have (A job, a computer, housing, food). Doesn't that mean I owe something to the rest of society and also have an interest in organizing that society efficiently?
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I don't know. Did you steal these things? Are you not giving something to your employer in exchange for that job?
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Again, you're stretching it to the extreme. There certainly would be less healthy and educated people.
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Okay, sounds like a good deal for those educated and healthy people, doesn't it? Depending on how many you believe would choose not to be educated, or choose not to maintain their health, the demand for those who did these things would push wages through the roof. Isn't that a good thing? And since there would be people doing these things, employers would gain no benefit from those who did not, would they?
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For me this is not about principles. This is about pragmatism and thinking about an efficient and humane way to organise our society.
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Ahh, so you're willing to sacrifice your values for pragmatism?
Isn't your second statement a principle?