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Re: A list of those who do not accept the AGW dogma.

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I wrote:The only way that the EPA or other agencies can regulate CO2 emissions is if it is labeled a pollutant. This has been done by judges and politicians -- not scientists. I have already posted links and graphs that bring into question the claims that CO2 is a major factor in warming trends. It does not help the alarmists that the warming trend stopped in 1998 and has begun to reverse itself.

You sure about that? If that is indeed the case, was it done with no input from qualified scientific authorities? That seems rather unlikely.
Yes, I am sure. Input from qualified scientific authorities? To a degree. The fact remains, the arguments were legal and made by lawyers and the judgment was handed down by other lawyers (judges). Not one of those judges has a degree in science. Its like the UN's IPCC, a lot of scientists are involved in the body of the report, but when it comes to writing the summary that is done by government officials and a few token scientists who accept the official dogma.

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I wrote: Does it? Has it? How has this effected world production? It has not.
Why would you accept hearsay? "A friend told me," is not a really good source to base one's assumptions. The mail person of my cousin's hairdresser's garbage man says, it is really dumb to accept second hand or third hand hearsay as evidence.



What was really dumb was to ignore his reference to the BP Statistical Review of World Energy 2008. If you'd gone to the trouble to have a look at it then you'd know that global production did indeed decline in 2007.

Oil production | Statistical Review 2008 | BP
What is dumb is not placing things into context and not looking behind the numbers. A small 2% decline in world production (The share of global supply from the Africa, Asia and the FSU grew in 2007, meanwhile, Middle East, North America, Latin America and Europe lost share), due to human mismanagement, bad maintenance (Iran, Venezuela, Russia), politics (OPEC, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela), environmentalists (America), terrorist attacks (Iraq, some of the African nations), criminal activity (some of the African nations), war, or natural disasters is not evidence of a real loss of oil in the world.

A couple examples:
Iran actually is short of oil - International Herald Tribune
http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/...693ecd67a.aspx

We also see good news from some places we would not expect: Hope arises for Iraqi oil production - USATODAY.com

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