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Old 08-08-2008
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Re: A list of those who do not accept the AGW dogma.

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Originally Posted by Mahasattva View Post
There are many (like Al Gore and some on this forum) who have made the assert that the science for man-made global warming is settled and we should act know. I disagree and there are many others who disagree and I shall proved a list at the end of this post.

Those who do not agree with the Algoreans , are those who accept global warming but do not believe human activity is the cause, it is a natural cycle or naturally occurring; there are those who believe that there is global warming but believe its effects will be positive rather than negative; and there are those who recognize that there has been a warming trend, but do not believe that this can determine future warming or cooling. I am talking about scientists not lay-persons.

One thing most of these individuals do agree upon is that any kind of policy like Kyoto or a Kyoto II or those recommended by the most recent IPCC would not stop global warming and would be very damaging to the world economies. Accepting policies like carbon caps or other dragonian restrictions to reduce carbon emissions would put a strangle on world economic development and will be strongly resisted by many nations. Both India and China have said that they will not accept any restriction that slow down their own growth. This is probably wise since the current understanding of the effects of these policies are that they will either not do anything to stop warming trends (if they are occurring) or will only delay the predicted warming of 2100 by 5 to 6 years. When we understand that this is at a cost of trillions for either nothing or a delay of 6 years, we must ask ourselves -- Can't our money and time be put to better use? I say yes.
Here's one who isn't a scientist but he does have worthy credentials: He's been a writer at 'The Nation' since 1984.

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"The left has been swept along, entranced by the allure of weather as revolutionary agent, naïvely conceiving of global warming as a crisis that will force radical social changes on capitalism".

The Nation, June 7, 07
He wrote 4 AGW skeptic articles in 2007 in The Nation. While we can't add him to the scientist skeptic list, we can add him to the apparently growing AGW skeptic camp.


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TheNation, June 7, 2007
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