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Old 08-20-2008
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Re: Ill and in Pain, Detainee Dies in U.S. Hands

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Yes, that is pretty shocking. And assuming their asylum/refugee were based on legitimate grounds, there's a possibility they will be locked up and tortured when sent back. That means the US would be violating UN Charters/ International law.
No it would not be a violation of international law/UN charters because those countries now will no longer torture. Some of those folks were kids when they came over, they are now grown adults and their families signed papers vowing never to go back to those countries (Romania, the Ukraine, Poland, Hungary etc) but now that the governments are open its not too much of a problem. We wouldn't send them back if we suspected even an ounce of a chance of them being tortured on return.

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Mr. Ng probabily were not aware of his breaking the law. He thought he was legal and thus tried to apply for a green card. Bad move, cost his life. The system is such that sometimes you had better stay illegal than getting attention to yourself.
However i'm not even sure what the status is on them if they are in the country now and on asylum laws with countries no longer living under tyranny, i think technically they are still fine unless they apply for citizenship in which case they then break the immigration laws by fraudulantly trying to become a citizen on the same asylum grounds, which don't apply as they are no longer in fear of their lives etc. I'll have to check i think.

Last edited by Traveler; 08-20-2008 at 10:29 AM. Reason: Quote tags.
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