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Old 09-03-2008
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Re: The A Bombs Of Japan: necessary ???

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Originally Posted by htperr6565 View Post
If you knew anything about world war 2 and military history in general, you would know that this war made the battleship obsolete!! The aircraft carrier was the key naval weapon in this war, that is why pearl harbor was not as devastating as it could have been (the air craft carriers were at sea), japan simply sank a bunch of ships that were days from coming obsolete. Naval warfare throughout this war was conducted by opposing ships that could not see each other (air craft carriers).
It depends on the situation. Aircraft carriers were vital … in their fight against the US Navy. According to the terribly vague scenario you laid out, the US Navy declares themselves winner and leaves. The only fleets Japan would have had to contend with were the Soviets (who didn’t acquire a carrier for another 40 years) and the Australians (who also had no carriers). Regardless, Japan still had 5 carriers in 1945, and had another 5 in production.

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I would love to see some evidence of this. In 1945, they still have a starving army in manchuria that the soviets are getting ready to slaughter. Their possessions in the South Pacific had been eliminated by, oh i dont know, the Americans!! Any possessions that they do have are surrounded by enemy naval forces. Once again, I would love you hear you elaborate on this point. what exactly the japanese are in control of in 1945 is going to be interesting...
Your evidence is a wiki-click away:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...frontAtlas.jpg

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I have argued over and over that no alternative is needed. (the war is over prior to the bomb being dropped or an invasion, as japan cannot function as a nation without surrendering)

(my goal here has little to do with you taking me seriously, you have obviously never thought outside the terms of the conventional debate on this issue (vaporize or invade) which is nothing but a false dilemma.
Yup; you’re a winner in your own mind.
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