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Old 09-16-2008
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Re: Charging rape victims--Palin/Obama/Biden/McCain

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Originally Posted by Fidei Defensor View Post
It must be me who lacks the moral compass then. I'll have to re-investigate my views on killing people, I guess.
Strawman. You initially inferred that the matter did not really bother me but was pretextual. I stated otherwise because it bothers me on crime enforcement and moral grounds on its own merit alone.

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The attacks have been petty, mean and insulting to others, which can actually energize voters. For example, all the looking-down-their-noses at Ms. Palin's religion and small town status only reinforces the negative impact of Obama's prior comments about people in small towns "clinging" to guns and religion because they're bitter. I'll bet a growing number of these bitter folks would love to see Obama taken down a notch on election day. Watching this develop has been amazing. It's almost like McCain picked her just to set Obama up for the rope-a-dope, and he's walking right into it.
And that's also been a strawman. The 'cling' stuff was a 'gotcha' taken intentionally out of context and Ms Palin reciting it at the RNC--citing my former city of residence--was likewise. Obama has never made 'small towns,' 'religion,' 'sexism,' or other nonsense a wedge. In fact, he has long taken the opposite approach with these matters. They self-created strawmans by his political opponents claiming he did when he didn't in order to trigger them. Indeed, these strawmans can be effective with some people because there are plenty of hypersensitive and 'angry' types looking for any excuse to scratch that itch. It doesn't have to be based on reality, which they aren't.

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I'll believe it when I see it.
Well, the answer will reveal itself one way or another if they raise it and I guess that's all there is to it because it will indeed speak for itself.
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