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Strawman. You initially inferred that the matter did not really bother me but was pretextual. I stated otherwise because it bothers me on crime enforcement and moral grounds on its own merit alone.
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I believe that you (and others) are easily bothered by relatively trivial matters tangentially related to Ms. Palin based on a preference for Mr. Obama and a resultant prejudice against her. In this case, you have conflated competing policy positions into a vital moral issue, characterizing the position counter to yours as "vilely immoral." While I agree with you on the policy, I would not go so far as you on the moral judgment -- reserving that for things like the actual rape and things like murder, violence, child abandonment, etc. I do not regard your words as pretextual as your feelings may indeed be sincere but nevertheless influenced by the factors mentioned above. In your case specifically, I do not view you as a propagandist and take you at your word.
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And that's also been a strawman. The 'cling' stuff was a 'gotcha' taken intentionally out of context and Ms Palin reciting it at the RNC--citing my former city of residence--was likewise. Obama has never made 'small towns,' 'religion,' 'sexism,' or other nonsense a wedge. In fact, he has long taken the opposite approach with these matters. They self-created strawmans by his political opponents claiming he did when he didn't in order to trigger them. Indeed, these strawmans can be effective with some people because there are plenty of hypersensitive and 'angry' types looking for any excuse to scratch that itch. It doesn't have to be based on reality, which they aren't.
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We need not debate whether it was real or not. Perception is what matters as you readily acknowledge here. The view of Mr. Obama as the candidate of snobs who look down their noses at people from small towns with guns and religion have been reinforced by the nature of some of the attacks against Ms. Palin.
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Well, the answer will reveal itself one way or another if they raise it and I guess that's all there is to it because it will indeed speak for itself.
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Indeed. I guess that the issue will be a non-issue and hope we can quickly move onto lesser moral issues like life and death, war and peace, etc. But if someone steps out of line on the rape kit funding issue I'm glad to know that you'll be ready to raise hell!
