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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker
Aye!!
So India is Secular to you? Ok let me know when you enter the real world.
Do me a favour.... research the Kashmir problem to understand whats goin on regionally over there.
I am not patronising, I am saying it how it is. If you want to understand whats goin on, you have to be rational. Also, you have to take all factors into consideration. This is not a one sided coin.... THERE ARE NO ONE SIDED COINS.
So DONT ignore one side of the story while you concentrate on the other. India is playin its role like the US played its role after 9/11. Alot of propaganda, alot of brainwashing, alot of sht coming from their media and their politicians. They saw this coming... you think their secret services play poker every night?
Americans know they were lied to after 9/11..... now you know India's game before they play it. Rice is goin there to make sure they know the rules of the game thats all. More alienation for the Indian Muslim population... more abuse, more oppression and more of the same reactions. I am not excusing the attackers.... how will this attack be of any benefit to the Muslims in India and in Kashmir.
Anyways, you can put ur hands on your eyes and shout "its terrorism, they hate India and its way of life" dadadadada.... or you can dig deeper and reach out to whats difficult to reach these days.... THE TRUTH.
I am not here to patronise or insult. Dont discuss me, discuss my opinions.
WS.
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WS .. while you are googling for kashmir .. please look up the news results for the latest elections held there in Indian part of Kashmir .. you might be suprised ... also while you are at it ... you might want to lookup the state of Muslims who left India and went to Paksitan in 1947 ... to give you a hint .. they are called as Mohajirs and treated as second class citizens within their own adopted country ...
Are you aware that in the state of Jammu and Kashmir Muslims may have the largest portion of the population but the state also has a huge hindu and buddhist population and that almost 300,000 hindus have been driven off their homes from the kashmir valley by your so called freedom-fighters ... and lastly before trying to take up the cause of Indian mulsims please have a look at what the Muslim leadership in India has to say about the terrorists ...
Terror has no religion, do not go soft: Muslim cleric
Muslim body refuses to bury 9 killers
And here is a piece done by the gaurdian about the place where these terrorists came from ..
Mumbai: Behind the attacks lies a story of youth twisted by hate
As far the secularism in India goes ... please look-up the following:
Abdul Kalam
Zakir Hussain
Abul Kalam Azad
Azim Premji
and there are many more ...
The Muslims population in India is not suppressed or oppressed by the state .. In fact India is perhaps the only country which gives a subsidy to Muslims who are travelling for Haj ...
Like any other big country .. we do have our share of problems but as far as secularism goes .. India is a hindu majority (~80% population is hindu) country .. but the current Prime Minister is a Sikh (~1.9% of the population) .. the current coalition govt is headed by a Christian (~2.3% of the population is Christian) .. our last President who also happens to be the ex-chief of of India's missile program and played a key role in India's nuclear program is a Mulsim (and he was nominated for that post by the right-wing BJP which is often potrayed as anti-muslim) as is our current vice-president (~14% of the population) ... The oldest and most respected business house in India and the owner of the Taj Mahal hotel is run by a Zoroastrian ... The most beloved soldier in India,
Sam Manekshaw,(who was the Army Chief at the time of the 1971 war with Pakistan) was a Zoroastrian ... The guy who oversaw the operation in Bangladesh in 1971 was a Jew
J F R Jacob... and the guy who took the surrender of the Pakistani forces in Bangladesh during the same war was a Sikh
Jagjit Singh Aurora ... and the list can go on and on ...
Tell me .. would you like to comment on the state of minorities in Pakistan ?? maybe they too are justified in taking up a gun and killing hundreds of Paksitanis .. but then again maybe they are already doing that (while you are googling, please look up root cause of Shia-Sunni violence in pakistan) ...
So please get off your high horse and come and talk to me when you have an Islamic country affording equal rights to its religious minorities and not treating them like second class citizens .. till then my advise is STFU ...