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Old 12-01-2008
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Re: Mumbai style attack could easily occur here

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Originally Posted by Wisdom_Seeker View Post
Ermm I think they are already dead EagleSeven, apart frm one who is caught. But you and I know that death is not the solution since they came with the intention to die

The solution is elsewhere as I suggested. You lack understanding of how these attackers function... they are not afraid of death. Hello!!!

Dont give me that crap about the Pentagon. As soon as 9/11 happened, those bloodthirsty aliens in the Pentagon couldnt wait to start a war... then another war......two wars under the Bush Admin.



You are asking me to choose how to die? Or to choose who the killer is?

All that sophisticated weaponry you brag about and then there is such a high number of civilian deaths. Something does not add up no?

WS.
You'll find a surprising number of Iraqi civillian deaths were caused by suicide bombers who missed their mark. We generally don't target malls, theaters, temples, and the like just for fun and impact. But such a point is lost on you. Don't you realize that the civillian body count in Iraq is not just civillians killed by US soldiers, but civillians killed by the insurgency, as well? People were so angry at the insurgents that events like the Anbar Awakening took place.
Iraq Body Count

Also, look at that number. 90k after nearly 6 years of fighting! And that's with the insurgents targeting innocent civillians on purpose!


By contrast, look to Vietnam, before we had modern smart weapons. Our bombing campaign against the north, Operation Rolling Thunder, lasted for three years. The US estimates that we killed upwards of 180k civillians in just those three years, due to air-raids alone! The Vietnamese estimate that we killed closer to a million, although their estimates likely include Vietnamese and Vietcong soldiers.

On the communist side, after the US pulled out, over 150k South Vietnamese went "missing" during the final communist push into the south. In net, both sides lost millions!


Now, put those numbers into perspective. In Vietnam, the US lost roughly 60,000 troops, and Vietnamese casualty estimates are upwards of 3,000,000. In WWII, over about seven years, 72,000,000 people died.

The war in Iraq, six years in, has resulted in 4,000 US troop deaths and 90,000 civillian deaths (killed by both sides).


The Iraq war would have to continue for 198 more years to have the same number of casaulties as in Vietnam.
The Iraq war would have to continue for 765 years, or seven centuries, to have casaulty counts like WWII.

You keep on telling me to be rational and think. The numbers don't appear to support your emotional arguments. Could you please stop your emotional pleas and coldy, rationaly think about those numbers, then get back to me?
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