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Originally Posted by Chocobot
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Originally Posted by Peace Now:
That is also an interesting post. So you're saying the problem is Zionism.
So you're against Zionism. In that case would it be fair to call you an anti-Zionist?
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Indeed.
That said, I recognise that Isreal exists and dont wish the Isreali people to disappear, nor do I think itd be possible. |
OK.
Now considering that Zionism is merely a movement which supports the right of Jews to self-determination in the Land of Israel. What would that make you?
It's funny, you say you recognize that Israel exists, but not that it has a right to exist. And you say you don't want the Israeli people to disappear. But you proclaim that you are an anti-Zionist, which by definition means you deny the right of Israeli people to live in Israel.
So either you don't know what the hell you're talking about, or you're just being a hypocrite. Which is it?
You can't have it both ways. And please don't bother trying to redefine the term Zionism. Or invent new definitions for the word anti-Semitism. There are already existing definitions in dictionaries and encyclopaedias.
I on the other hand recognize Palestinians' right to have a state in Palestine with East Jerusalem as their capital. I believe they have a historic right to the land, but I also believe that Jews have a historic right to the land. So a two state solution where both sides come to some kind of compromise is the only peaceful solution. I believe a compromise where Palestine is established in Gaza and the West Bank, with East Jerusalem as their capital living side by side with Israel is the only solution.
Even PM Netanyahu stated that he supports a two state solution with a demilitarized Palestine living side by side with Israel. Obviously both sides will have to compromise and come to an agreement about Jerusalem and the right of return. Both sides will have to compromise. Israel isn’t the only one that needs to make concessions.
But what is clear from some posts in this forum is that some people who live in Europe and other places are even less willing to compromise than PM Netanyahu who they claim is unwilling to compromise.
It's really very amusing to see the same people here (btw not referring to you CHOCOBOT) who demand that Israel abide by UN resolutions, yet they refuse to even recognize Israel as a Jewish state, which is a cornerstone in the Partition Plan proposed by the UN. Those same UN resolutions that they cite time after time call for a
Jewish state and an Arab state. Now people are suddenly outraged by Netanyahu’s demand to recognize Israel as a Jewish state (which also ensures minorities’ religious and legal rights of course).
So you'll understand why Israelis don't get too excited when we're criticized by such a bunch of hypocrites.