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Originally Posted by fishjoel
Out of your examples I don't see one instance of racism. It's not racism to talk about some helicopter . It's also not racist to think that Powell voted for Obama because he is black. Powell claims he is a Republican. Now I can accept that he might be a moderate but there is nothing moderate about Obama, he is far left. I was talking to a black guy at my work and he is pretty conservative and he said he voted for Obama for the historical aspect and maybe some other reasons that I wouldn't be able to understand because I am not black. Making an assumption is not racist. I'm sure you could find much better examples of something that is racist. I'll even give you a leg up. Go look up what Rush said about Donovan McNabb. Once you look that up then I'll tell you how you are wrong there as well.
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Well, I never meant that the helicopter comment was racist, but rather twisting the facts, only giving part of the story, so it appeared (false as it was) that Obama was trying to spend billions selfishly on a new helicopter. I listen to Hannity go on for fifteen minutes about something that was ordered shortly after 911. If I used Hannity's logic I would assume that he (Hannity) now opposed the helicopter because Bush is no longer president(or because we now have a Democratic President), but I will not make that claim. I will claim that Hannity, Rush, Beck et al, will attack Obama for anything he does, even if they would cheered Bush for the same action. And Rush in particular has a stanglehold on the Republican party, just ask Micheal Steele.
As far as Rush's comment on Powell, We have an overweight, three times divorced, drug addicted, sex tourist who never spent a day in uniform who believes he is qualified to judge that decision of a decorated combat veteran who rose to chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. Even if Powell had made the decision with "historic" considerations, Rush's comment is still racist, because he repeated that the decision was "soley" based on race. That would mean that there was no other consideration other than race. I'll ask again does any one seriously believe Powell would have supported Al Sharpton? Did Chris Buckley decide to support Obama because of race or did he(Buckley) believe that Obama was perhaps the best canidate. In case every conservative has forgotten there were plenty of Obamicans. I'm old enough to remember Eisenhower, sure he was a Republican but also a Keynsian, and his granddaughter(lifelong Republican) supported Obama. Was that a race based decision? Powell also stated he had voted for Carter, because he thought he was the best man to lead the country and then voted for Reagan for the same reason. For most of us we are Dems or Reps because it is closest to what we believe, but many of us do have the ability to acknowledge intelligence and leadership on the other side. I have no problem with people stating what they believe, I used to read many conservatives editorials, but in the last few years many "conservative editorialists" have in my opinion become shills for the Republicans or worse. Example, I'll read Pat Buchanan even though I seldom agree with him, his thinking is his own. Writers like Ann Coulter and Michele Malkin aren't worth the time.
My main point in my original post was that we need serious dialouge concerning what we as a nation face today. I don't think we'll get that from the RWM, because all that we hear is that Obama is wrong and will destoy our nation. We will never get reasonable discussion that way.