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Originally Posted by Peace Now
OK. So Israel doesn't have a right to exist, rocket attacks against civilians are justified. And "the US probably deserved the 9/11 attack".
Thanks for explaining your point of view. Now we can all see what your idea of justice looks like.
I loved how he ended up justifying the attacks of 9/11 and then condemning them in the same sentence. That was great!
And for the record, since this thread is supposedly about Jews who support removing settlements, there are many Jews (Rabbis or just your average Israelis like me) who are for removing most or all the settlements. A few years ago we saw all the settlements from Gaza removed by Israel, and several settlements in the West Bank as well. But have we seen any gestures from the Palestinian side after that? No, we just got more rockets and more demands. So forgive us if Israel is a little cautious about making further withdrawals.
We are going to remove some settlements, but only in keeping with our security concerns. We're not going to just remove all the settlements at once. We’re going to take it slow to see whether at any point the Palestinians do decide to start moving forward perhaps reciprocating with a few peaceful gestures of their own. We’re willing to move forward with the peace process if they’re willing to do their part. But incitement to violence, rocket attacks and refusal to compromise, really aren’t conducive to peace.
To put it simply, it takes two to tango. And Israel has shown in the past that when we have a real partner on the other side peace is possible.
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What you said makes no sense.
Clearly I said that the 9/11 attackes were not justified because there was no need to attack civilians.
And how it reducing settlements that Israel doesn't want and can't defend, like in Gaza, making any sort of gesture at all.
It is not like returning settlements in Gaza was some sort of gift, because the settlements should never have been there at all.
Just returning them is not enough.
There should be a penalty for ever having taken them at all.
And there are still all the other settlements and land illegally confiscated in the occupied territories as well as within Israel.
What you ask is like expecting a person to say thank you for returning the wallet they stole, while they still have your stolen car and home.
There can be no compromise on the withdraw from all the settlements and a return to the 1967 borders, because that is already far too much of a compromise.
Israel should not have any part of Jerusalem at all if one went back to the legal borders, which were established in 1948.