This is from that conservative poster from the first page of this thread:
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Have no idea what you're talking about re Gitmo -- the only thing of significance to happen there recently is islamic and arab-american soldiers acting as spies against the U.S. The last ACTUAL U.S. war criminal was Sergeant Calley in the Vietnam War who was duly tried and convicted in a U.S. court marshall.
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Sergeant Calley was pardoned by Nixon years after the May Lai massacre and never served the full sentence, which did not reflect the crime anyways, you Republican Whore.
As for 20th Century American Politics...
The Republicans had a strong hold on US government from the end of the Civil War (because they were on the winning side) to the Great Depression. They, more than any other party, represented the will of 'big business'. The Democratic party during this time, had its main source of power in the South (because they supported States rights in Civil War) and for a time tried to gain support from the Labor Movement that was raging from before the turn of the Century. The United States politics took a big change during the Great Depression of the 1930s. Franklin Delano Roosevelt took advantage of the bad time to win the 1932 election on a platform that criticized Republican respnses. He instituted reforms that represented the governments first attempt to reach out directly to the lower classes of American society, which were on the verge of open rebellion. His policies gave the Democratic Party such support that they maintained control over the congress most of the time until 1994. WWII brought American involvement into Foreign Affairs permanently.
But the biggest affect on American Politics Today, more so than any other event (I think) is the Cold War. Harry S. Truman went absolutely nuts when the Russians simply did what they have been negotiating for through out WWII, took steps to bring Eastern Europe to Soviet Hegemony. Truman, feeling that American Domination of the Western Europe, Middle East, Japan, China and Southeast Asia wasn't imperialistic, claimed that the Soviets were a threat to the United States. He bolstered up military spending to War levels for the first time in peace time. The Soviets felt the snub from US's post-war aid and felt threatened due to the absolute devestation wrought on the Russian landscape during the War.
Truman's 'Get tought' policies propagated the Cold War, which dominated the American psyche for the next fourty years
Communism, ever since the Russian Revoltion of 1918, has always been a scapegoat of American Politicians. When the Soviets made there much-expected move on Eastern Europe, the marketing campaign against communism reached War Time Propaganda proportions. The Korean War brought the tension to a boiling point. Republicans (tending to support more business interests) had the most anti-communsist politicians the US has ever known: Nixon, McCarthy, Goldwater and etc. The Democrats were no angels (they tended to support the New Deal Reforms of FDR) and also had some noteworthy hawks: Truman and Kennedy. The result of environment was an overwhelming increase in the power of the executive branch and the formation of the 'Cold War Mentality'. The mentality was so powerful that billions of dollars and millions of lives were taken for the sake of not 'appeasing' to the communists. Eisenhower, though rhetorically more polite than Truman, increased military spending far more than Truman ever did. The CIA, under Eisenhower's green light, overthrew governments in Iran and Latin America to replace them with American Puppets (covertly, without the US publics knowledge). Eisenhower increased foreign aid to support anti-communist regimes and to sway neutrally aligned nations. He also built up the aid to the education of US technical education to support the self-sufficiency of US industry. The monster of Beaurocracy and Cold War Mentality that Eisenhower help created, must of caused him at least a little guilt because he mentioned some of it in his farewell address. He spoke of the creation of the military industrial complex, and warned of the dangers of a national security state. I believe it around this time in history that the major corporations of America, partly responsible for the ani-communist attitude, became exponetially more powerful in the American Government.
I'm tired of spewing my version of US history, but my basic point (i'll finish the 20th Cent later) is that the Cold War has created a lot undemocratic policies and traditions that influenced the US Government in a very bad way. I will eventually parrelell George W's demonization of Islamic Fundamentalism to Truman's/capitalists demonization of Communism. Both were marketed to the American Public in very crude ways, in order to manipulate them for other purposes. GW is a child of the Cold War (Baby Boomer) generation and, seeing that he isn't an intellectual (or admires anything of that sort), sees things in the same way politicians did generations ago.
Its absolutely sickening to me.
Maybe its the way US History was taught to me (Howard Zinn's
A People's History of The United States) but I have yet to find an equally researched counter-opinion.
The sentiments of Bob Dylan in 1963 articulate my feelings completely:
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Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side.
Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.
Oh the Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns in their hands
And God on their side.
Oh the First World War, boys
It closed out its fate
The reason for fighting
I never got straight
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.
When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.
I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war starts
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.
But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.
In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.
So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war.
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I know my presentation of facts in this post are very opiniated and biased, but this is how I think. I am part of this forum so I can discover arguments that are backed up as much as/more than Howard Zinn's. I would appreciate it if anybody could offer it.