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Re: U.S. passport rules are 'war on tourism'

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Originally Posted by Iliak
In the USSR constitutions (1924, 1977) as well as the amendment from 1944 the republics had the right to seceed. Just as Bavaria has the same right in the Bundesrepublik. That being said it was of course unrealistic that it could happen. As for the EU, any country that wants to drop out of the "polity" has the right to do so, but members must unanimously support it. However, such a move is highly unlikely, because the EU in constrast to any other "empire" is "empire by invitation," not "by force. This is one of the reasons why the EU is so unique, so different from any other social construction that has ever existed. That it is unique is confirmed by the lack of a common label for the EU among social scientists. Is it a state? In some respects - symbols, CFSP etc. - it arguebly is. On the other hand... well you know (Dutch, French referendas, lack of coherens on Iraq etc.).
I would remind you that no state was coerced into joining the United States. All partitioned for admittance and all voted for the membership in the Union. The US likewaise voted to admit them. In this respect the US and EU, under the defunct constitution, would have been the same. I submit however no state in the US would be allowed to leave unless there were extraordinary reasons, and I can't imagine what they would be. The same would be true for the EU once it is consolidated. It will become increasingly true as time goes on.
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