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Originally Posted by FreeThinker
you're quoting right wing sources and saying hrw is pro-hezbollah.. man.. where have you lived your life? in a cave somewhere in the boonies? jeez.. you all don't know what and who HRW is?
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Well spoken. The question however is if our friend from Israel understands what we mean. I will give jpsartre an example:
You resort to evidently biased sources, including war Greuel propaganda. Please study the following sources:
"US Army Uses Iraqi Children As Human Shields Again"
http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/...-as-human.html
"now the [US] military is using Iraqis as human shields on the streets and highways in an effort to protect themselves from attacks by the resistance."
http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraq...es/000356.html
Well, those evidently are other pieces of biased propaganda. You would be justified to dismiss that as evidence of a US policy of using Iraqi children as human shields. Maybe now you can understand why resorting to such invalid sources only is harmful to your cause?
Nevertheless, since you are so interested in the question on human shields, hopefully in principle, here are some indeed reliable sources on the use of human shields in a conflict. You probably were not aware of the fact that if anyone is using human shields in the present conflict, it is the Israeli side:
Human Rights Watch:
"In the four cases researched in detail by Human Rights Watch, eyewitnesses described a night of panic and terror, including death threats, house demolitions, and wide-scale arrests. In each of these cases, the IDF routinely coerced civilians to perform life-endangering acts that assisted IDF military operations. [. . .] This report finds that the IDF is systematically coercing Palestinian civilians to assist military operations. This practice violates a fundamental principle of IHL: that of civilian immunity. It violates Israel's obligation to protect and respect civilian persons under Article 27 of the Fourth Geneva Convention,3 and recklessly exposes civilians to danger. The threats and coercion used by the IDF to compel civilians to assist them are explicitly prohibited under Article 31 of the Convention."
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/israel2/israel0402.htm
"In two of the cases documented by Human Rights Watch, IDF soldiers coerced children under the age of eighteen to approach the houses of "wanted" Palestinians. Children are entitled to all the protections of IHL, enhanced by special protections derived from their status as children."
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/isra...htm#P176_25821
For much more, see the report "HUMAN SHIELD: Use of Palestinian Civilians as Human Shields in Violation of High Court of Justice Order" by B’TSELEM (B’TSELEM is the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories,founded in 1989 by a group of lawyers, authors, academics, journalists, and Members of Knesset. "B’Tselem documents human rights abuses in the Occupied Territories and brings them to the attention of policymakers and the general public. Its data are based on independent fieldwork and research, offi cial sources, the media, and data from Palestinian and Israeli human rights organizations.")
The B'Tselem findings are without doubt:
"During the al-Aqsa intifada, IDF soldiers
have used Palestinian civilians as human shields. This practice has been most common during IDF operations in Palestinian population centers, such as Operation Defensive Shield and Operation Determined Path. The method is the same each time: soldiers pick a civilian at random and force him to protect them by doing dangerous tasks that put his life at risk."
http://www.btselem.org/Download/2002...Shield_Eng.pdf
The latest report on such Israeli crimes is dated only a few days ago:
"20 July 2006: Israeli Soldiers use civilians as Human Shields in Beit Hanun"
http://www.btselem.org/english/Human...Beit_Hanun.asp
Since that seems to be such a general practise, it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that the same Israeli troops are using Lebanese civilians as human shields now that they are invading and occupying Lebanon? That is far more conceivable than to think that someone would use his own people, his own families as human shields. (Even if the Israeli troops have committed many atrocities, I would dismiss as war propaganda any claim from an enemy of Israel that Israeli troops are using
Israeli civilians as human shields. On the other hand, I would find it conceivable to think that Israel's enemies could use Israeli civilians as human shields, if they had the possibility.)
I would like Jpsartre, who raised the topic on human shields, to comment on the Israeli use of human shields according to the reliable sources above.
Personally, I am disgusted by the use of human shields, regardless who does it. I already am disgusted by both sides - Israel and Hezbollah - in the present conflict. But since jpsartre is so clearly biased towards Israel, it would be interesting to see what he/she has to say about the Israeli use of human shields, and if he/she thinks that Israel is using human shields in Lebanon at this very moment.