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Originally Posted by oleg
No excuse. Just take into a habit to face the unpleasant truth, instead of shattering mirror and ubrupting the talk. The strange words like "extermination", "extinction" and the topic of Holocaust denial you invented yourself right here; these are not words of mine. Chill up, fellow, why have you gotten so nervous suddenly?) The camps with barbed wire were televised in the EuroNews, they are located on the isles in the Mideterranian sea, and you said right - they are for Africans. These camps are for concentration of illegal immigrants. BTW, don't use the argument of Holocaust denial against Russians - it's useless and will not act as you accustomed to in Europe or America - as trustworthy stamping instrument to show your opponent as pariah and slip from the dispute. Our grandfathers opened the gates of Auschwitz-Birkenau, and you'd better not lift up this topic.
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There seems to be a language issue.
I have looked up the meaning of the word "concentration camp" in english. I reckognize that its a very ambivalent term, so holocaust denial is a too strong word as you said this in english. If you would have said it in German I still would firmly stand to my comment.
Still I can not accept the way you make accusations like these, they are unholdable and I might quote this part of what Wikipedia has to say on it:
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Since the nature of Germany's so-called "concentration camps" (Konzentrationslager, abbreviated KL or Lager(i.e. camp), later KZ) became known, the term is sometimes used as propaganda, with greater or lesser justification, to imply that a camp is designed to exterminate, rather than merely to concentrate, its inmates.
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Dont say your usage of the term concenration camp was used while not knowing that double meaning.
And apart from this the term Concentration camp hardly meets its needed requirements. People are there for a limited time, until they are brought back to the countries they come from or are located to other places where they can wait for a fair asylum case.
If any, and I repeat any human rights violations should take place in those camps you call concentration camps, anyone can go to the courts. If being rejected by the member state, you can go up till the European Court of Human Rights. If you have any proof for violations personally, don't waste time arguing with me, get in contact with a lawyer and help getting such case initiated. But you might come too late anyway, unlike Russia we do not throw out NGO's out of our countries under the pretense of being foreign financed hostile organisations. And really believe me or not, our states are not in love with what those organisations do, as they are often a (essential and good) pain in the ass.