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Originally Posted by oleg
I understood your point - good war to sell, but idiots from Republican Party should have better let to do the job to those who could do it professionaly.
Huh? Do you remember the video with Chamberlein with the small piece of paper clutched in his hand? Cite me his exact words, you specialist in history.Very weak argument. Hitler allied with Japanese who were not up to the standards first in queue after Jews and Gipsis. All those Aryan mambo-jumbo of Hitler were greatly exxagerated in the after-war period, in order to attach to the Nazis the halo of mistical madness. Nobody in Germany have had even the faintest idea, that Hitler plunge into the big risky war after the Versaille injustice was already amended and French were punished. Guderian who shined in glorious panzer-marshes in 1939, remembers in his memoirs as he was astonished and felt the foul chill across his back, as he was suddenly called to the Headquarters and saw the map of Russia on the table. It was surprise for all nation. The letters and diaries of German soldiers I read prove it.
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Oleg, the British and French would have cared less had Hitler attacked east into Russia, all they cared about and all they claimed was that THEY avoided war with the Germans.
Please tell me you don't think the whole "Germans thought anyone who wasn't Aryan were untermenshcen" was a construct of the Allies after the war. Surely you aren't that backward. When was Mein Kampf written again? He pretty much laid it out for you. In Mein Kampf Hitler made it clear that the Germans were looking for Lebensraum and the place the were looking for it from was to the east. In preparation for the attack Hitler moved over 3 million men to the eastern front, and yet Stalin still had no idea what was comming. Please Oleg, if you want to fool yourself that is fine by me but don't expect me to join you in that revision of history. There may have been some people who were suprised, after all he was a dictator and it is pretty well known that he did a lot of the planning for Barbarosa himself.
Oleg I am not trying to take away anything from the USSR with respect to the price they paid or what they achieved in the latter years of the war, but in 1939 you got suckered. Stalin took a gamble knowing he had done damage to his military and it wsan't ready to fight. He was playing for time to rebuild. Hitler needed time to finish off the west first. But the attack was comming. All you had to do was read Mein Kampf to know it was coming.